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 Post subject: Re: Labels, Liberals and Conservatives
PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:23 pm  
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would masturbation count as mass murder then?
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 Post subject: Re: Labels, Liberals and Conservatives
PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:10 am  
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I don't like abortions. I think they're wrong and, despite what some people say, they can be used as a post-conception birth control.

If I'm trying to define life, I think it starts at conception. (Just because a child at that early stage is a parasite doesn't mean it's not alive in my book.) If the world asked me to pick a cut-off for abortions (except in the rare cases where it's going to be a life-threatening delivery or its a child from incest) I think I'd be most comfortable saying babies can't be aborted if a heart beat is detected with an ultra-sound. (I think that's somewhere between the 6-8 week range.) That's not saying I support abortions in any way, just if I had to draw a line in the sand, that's where it'd be.

Honestly, I used to not care too much either way but after seeing my sons heart beat when we went in for our first appointment... I just have a have a hard time knowing people would willingly destroy something that turned out to be the greatest and most beautiful thing in my life. Then again, who am I to say.


Very interesting. I have a question though - suppose it turned out that you and your wife weren't ready for a baby, decided on an abortion and a couple years later gave birth to a baby boy.. wouldn't this baby boy be the greatest and most beautiful thing in your life? Just wondering, because it's not like you absolutely wouldn't be able to have a baby later.

I also do not mean to demean you, your wife or your son in any way by asking this question. I am just asking. Feel free to ignore.



I would always wonder about what could have been, personally. I could never see myself pushing for an abortion, and I do believe it should ultimately be the woman's choice BUT should be discussed to the point of conversational exhaustion. It's not the type of thing you don't include the father in. I would feel terrible.


That said, my girlfriend and I have twin boys, almost 3 years old now. Abortion was never on the table. I personally believe it should be used sparingly and not out of convenience, but only for issues where the mother's health is in danger. I believe greatly in the government fucking off out of other people's lives as well.

Use common sense..don't get an abortion out of convenience, wrap ur junk up, and don't punish and ostracize people for having an abortion that is medically necessary.

Raising kids is not THAT hard. There are plenty of resources available to help you. Adoption is awesome for people who are unable to reproduce.

At the same time, yeah, shit happens and we all make mistakes. I wouldn't want someone considering abortion to go through with birthing the child anyway because an unwanted child deserves better. All children deserve to be loved by their parents and not viewed as an inconvenience. Sex was designed for the purpose of reproduction, and not as a hobby. Yeah, we all get horny from time to time and yes we all have sex for the feel-good benefit of it from time to time (unless you're a Mormon).

Just keep in the back of your mind what sex is intended for, and realize that it's a possibility. We all know where babies come from (except for those homeschooled ultrareligious mormom wackos, again).

My stance on the issue is basically this:

Government, fuck off out of people's business. People, don't be reckless idiots.


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 Post subject: Re: Labels, Liberals and Conservatives
PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:29 am  
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Battletard wrote:
That said, my girlfriend and I have twin boys, almost 3 years old now. Abortion was never on the table. I personally believe it should be used sparingly and not out of convenience, but only for issues where the mother's health is in danger. I believe greatly in the government fucking off out of other people's lives as well.

Use common sense..don't get an abortion out of convenience, wrap ur junk up, and don't punish and ostracize people for having an abortion that is medically necessary.

Raising kids is not THAT hard. There are plenty of resources available to help you. Adoption is awesome for people who are unable to reproduce.


For some people that is too much to ask and the problems they create are larger than they are. It's cool to say "freedom" but they aren't controlling only their own destiny.

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Raising kids is not THAT hard. There are plenty of resources available to help you. Adoption is awesome for people who are unable to reproduce.


...unless you're not white.


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 Post subject: Re: Labels, Liberals and Conservatives
PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:21 pm  
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Aestu wrote:
Battletard wrote:
That said, my girlfriend and I have twin boys, almost 3 years old now. Abortion was never on the table. I personally believe it should be used sparingly and not out of convenience, but only for issues where the mother's health is in danger. I believe greatly in the government fucking off out of other people's lives as well.

Use common sense..don't get an abortion out of convenience, wrap ur junk up, and don't punish and ostracize people for having an abortion that is medically necessary.

Raising kids is not THAT hard. There are plenty of resources available to help you. Adoption is awesome for people who are unable to reproduce.


For some people that is too much to ask and the problems they create are larger than they are. It's cool to say "freedom" but they aren't controlling only their own destiny.

Battletard wrote:
Raising kids is not THAT hard. There are plenty of resources available to help you. Adoption is awesome for people who are unable to reproduce.


...unless you're not white.


touche.


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 Post subject: Re: Labels, Liberals and Conservatives
PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:32 pm  
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 Post subject: Re: Labels, Liberals and Conservatives
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 Post subject: Re: Labels, Liberals and Conservatives
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 Post subject: Re: Labels, Liberals and Conservatives
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 Post subject: Re: Labels, Liberals and Conservatives
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:22 pm  
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 Post subject: Re: Labels, Liberals and Conservatives
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 Post subject: Re: Labels, Liberals and Conservatives
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