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 Post subject: Re: So here's a thing...
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:05 am  
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Jubber said what I meant in a better way.


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 Post subject: Re: So here's a thing...
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:46 pm  
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This shit had nothing to do with race or gender or who has what parts. it's two hood rats lookin for trouble.


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 Post subject: Re: So here's a thing...
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:04 pm  
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Laelia wrote:
This is all irrelevant, because the issue here is sexual identity. Sexual identity is not strictly determined by chromosomes, and sometimes a persons sexual identity is mismatched with their biological sex. Nobody really knows what causes the mismatch, but it clearly happens, and accusing people of being degenerates because of it is absurd.


Science doesn't accept "because some people say it CLEARLY happens" as a valid basis for a theory.

Again: why should a wish be considered a valid basis for truth?


This isn't a scientific theory, it's a simple observation. A person's sexual identity is whatever they feel it is; nobody else is in a position to determine the "truth" of these feelings. There may or may not be something biological that determines identity, but that's beside the point. If people feel there is a mismatch between their sexual identity and their biological sex, then there's a mismatch between their sexual identity and biological sex. If that sounds like a trivial statement, that's because it is.

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So you assume that she's a degenerate because you don't know what the whole story is?


My question was valid.


"I am firmly of the view that anyone who would have themselves mutilated to change their gender is a degenerate" is not a question.


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 Post subject: Re: So here's a thing...
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:06 pm  
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I feel I'm a cockroach. Therefore, I am.


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 Post subject: Re: So here's a thing...
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:18 pm  
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This shit had nothing to do with race or gender or who has what parts. it's two hood rats lookin for trouble.


I think it's a combination personally. I think they probably already had a negative disposition/distrust towards her being white (there are subliminal prejudices everywhere...if I am the only white guy in an elevator full of black dudes, I'll feel uneasy. I'm not racist, but it's there). Then, since she is transgender, and went in to the women's bathroom they were actively displeased. Couple that with the fact that they are a couple of hood rats looking for trouble (considering the one had a prior issue with someone at the same McDonalds...). Add it all together, and that's how violence erupted.


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 Post subject: Re: So here's a thing...
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:21 pm  
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Aestu wrote:
I feel I'm a cockroach. Therefore, I am.


Your species identity is that of a cockroach. Your biological species is (presumably) human. See how this works now?


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