Dagery wrote:
Dvergar wrote:
Armed revolt is the only thing that will change the government at this point, and people have been so thoroughly indoctrinated that non-violence is the only way that they won't even entertain the thought.
You seem to be operating under the assumption that armed revolt wouldn't be
immediately crushed
Nothing in what I said betrayed any assumptions I was making. I didn't lay out a plan for revolution or suggest that occupy whatever/any movement should switch to violence.
Suggesting that revolt is impossible is flat out wrong. If a majority of Americans took to the streets to eject the government by force, the actions of the government would be egregious enough that some defection of police and military would be believable, if not outright attempts at succession by states.
The police forces know that they need to control the populace and ensure order, but there are tipping points. The riots in LA weren't immediately put down. It took days before the police regained control, and that was because the riots petered out and the national guard showed up, not because the police handled the situation.
Our military is very well trained and loyal, but would they fire on American citizens in mass? If the revolutionaries didn't fire on the military, but refused to obey them, would they fire? It's one thing to bomb a jeep with a drone, it's another to shoot your fellow citizens. And if they did fire, what would the world's reaction be? We supported Libya, who is to say China won't support our revolutionaries?
We won't ever see an armed uprising, Americans are kept fat and stupid with cheap goods and distractions. My initial statement was that real change won't come without revolt, the system is built to continue the corrupt and broken dealings, and that people are so indoctrinated by this system that violence is considered a great affront and somehow beneath them. They've been convinced that just complaining about things is enough to provoke great change and shift power from those who want nothing but.
