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 Post subject: Re: Dabbing Fingers With Rubbing Alcohol
PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:29 am  
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Aestu wrote:
Meowth wrote:
Alt/control/shift modifiers and mice with 7 buttons called


I use all modifiers and all keys within easy range of WASD. You must either make do with less binds or move your hands further to invoke the same number of abilities.

A mouse has the same problem - you lose time when you reset its position. A Trackman also has seven buttons, but it has the advantage that its position never needs resetting, and it requires less hand movement to control, meaning greater efficiency.

The problem is you are looking at the issue from the wrong point of view. You are considering it from the point of view that you can do an adequate job with the capabilities you have. You are failing to consider it from the point of view that you are unable to find a use for superior capabilities.

Elite and elitist are not the same thing. Unless you are literally the best player in the world in all respects, any advantage bears exercising.


I'm going to make the assumption you macro pointless things like the First Aid and Cooking windows and have macros for making campfires and cooking fish.

`-5
F1-F4
R
T
A
D
F
G
Z
X
C

That's 19 right there. The only modifiers I used were alt to self heal and I clicked on 3min+ cooldowns, non-combat stuff like my mount and food, or stuff I almost never use like lolSoothe Beast and Hibernate. I fail to see how moving your entire left hand to hit those 12 macro keys and finding WASD again is better. I've used a G15 before and there is no way you can reach more than three of those buttons without moving your whole hand.


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 Post subject: Re: Dabbing Fingers With Rubbing Alcohol
PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:06 am  
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Meowth wrote:
I'm going to make the assumption you macro pointless things like the First Aid and Cooking windows and have macros for making campfires and cooking fish.


ahahah

Actually, no, I don't have professions bound.

Meowth wrote:
`-5


` - Cobalt Frag Bomb
Shift-` - Saronite Bomb
Ctrl-` - Global Thermal Sapper Charge
Alt-` - Big Daddy

1 - Rebuke
Alt-1 - Holy Shield
Shift-1 - Set Focus

2 - Judgement
Alt-2 - Taunt
Shift-2 - Target Focus

3 - Crusader Strike
Alt-3 - Cleave
Shift-3 - Righteous Fury

4 - Shield Slam
Alt-4 - Holy Wrath
Shift-4 - Mouseover BoK

5 - HoJ
Alt-5 - Racial
Shift-5 - Mouseover BoM

6 - Guardian
Alt-6 - Word of Glory
Shift-6 - Remove Righteous Fury

Meowth wrote:
F1-F4


Target Party Member 1-4

Meowth wrote:
R


R - Consecrate
Shift-R - Hammer of Wrath
Alt-R - Exorcism

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T


T - Heal Potion
Shift-T - Armor Potion

Meowth wrote:
A D


lol

Meowth wrote:
F


F - Assist Target
Shift-F - Throw Shield
Alt-F - Fire Bolt Gun

Meowth wrote:
G


G - Use Healthstone
Shift-G - Survey

Meowth wrote:
Z


Z - Righteous Defense
Alt-Z - Mouseover RD
Shift-Z - Assist BoP

Meowth wrote:
X


X - Bubble
Shift-X - Remove Bubble and BoP
Alt-X - Hearthstone (for obvious reasons)

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C


C - Divine Plea
Shift-C - Inquisition
Ctrl-C - Wrist Rocket
Alt-C - Lay on Hands

Meowth wrote:
That's 19 right there.


Shield Wall
Argent Defender
Plasma Shield / Parachute Cloak
BoP/BoF/Sac/Salv
Defibrilate/Redemption/Mass Resurrection
Trinket 1 / Trinket 2
FoL / HL / DL
Cleanse

There's 19 more for you. I have about 60 binds.

Meowth wrote:
The only modifiers I used were alt to self heal and I clicked on 3min+ cooldowns


Then your performance is suboptimal. In the time it takes you to click you could die to a weapon swing and you are losing the effect of a cooldown on your own weapon swings/casts.

Opponent kills you at 10k hp? Boss scores a 25k overkill on you?

The margin is great enough that you WILL see clicking on a cooldown cause a wipe or defeat in what would otherwise have been a kill or victory.

Meowth wrote:
non-combat stuff like my mount and food


' - Ground Mount
Shift-' - Flying Mount

Alt-9 - Eat Mageflesh

If you are clicking mount and food you WILL lose the opportunity to activate them during a break in combat. You WILL see it happen.

Meowth wrote:
or stuff I almost never use like lolSoothe Beast and Hibernate



Google the phrase, "Use Your Tractors, Dammit!"

Do that and get back to me.

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Meowth wrote:
I fail to see how moving your entire left hand to hit those 12 macro keys and finding WASD again is better.


More binds, faster reaction.

Also I am so incredibly lazy and slovenly that the act of clicking mounts etc is physically exhausting.

Meowth wrote:
I've used a G15 before and there is no way you can reach more than three of those buttons without moving your whole hand.


How much do you use your left ring/pinky fingers?


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 Post subject: Re: Dabbing Fingers With Rubbing Alcohol
PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:38 am  
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My original keyboard came with a calculator and media buttons, what!? I had to put springs in the spacebar though and then one of my keys started to not bounce back and I said fuck it.

Soothe Beast is now Soothe and is useful for removing all enrage effects (including Vengence if a tank somehow gets it up). Hibernate was always good for the simple fact that you could use it on Hunter pets for lulz and CC Shamans in Travel Form and other Druids (especially Feral Druids, foreverlolol).


~
Blind

Shift+~
Feint/Shadow Dance

1
CP Generator/Hemo/Distract

Shift+1
Gloves

Ctrl+1
AIDs

2
Backstab/Ambush/Cheapshot

Shift+2
Shiv/Slows

Ctrl+2
Premed

3
Gouge/Premed

Shift+3
Dismantle/Disarm

Ctrl+3
Redirect

4
Eviscerate/Envenom/Garrote

Shift+4
FoK

Ctrl+4
Garrote

5
Cloak of Skills

Shift+5
Parachute/Healthstone/Rogue's Draught

Ctrl+5
Sap/Set Focus/Belt Shield

E
Rupture/Pickpocket

Shift+E
Expose Armor

R
Kidney Shot/Sap/Set Focus

Shift+R
Slice and Dice

Ctrl+R
Recuperate

Q
Stealth/Mount/Flying Mount/Sea Horse

Shift+Q
Shadow Step/Cold Blood

MWB
Vanish/Tricks

Shift+MWB
PvP Trinkets/Trinkets

Ctrl+MWB
Smoke Bomb

MWF
Kick/Ambush/Pummel

Shift+MWF
Deadly Throw

Ctrl+MWF
Combat Readiness

MWC
Evasion

Shift+MWC
WotF

Ctrl+MWC
Cannibalize

F
Sprint

Shift+F
Throw/Shoot

T
Prep/Ad Rush/Vendetta

Shift T
Focus Blind

Then I still have room for some more, I just haven't got around to it.


Also, the rubber wheel on my mouse was getting to be shit so I took it off and now I just use the bareframe of the wheel. Am good?

I use my left pinky for hitting ctrl and my left ring finger for hitting shift/tab


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 Post subject: Re: Dabbing Fingers With Rubbing Alcohol
PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:57 am  
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V - Trinket 1
B - Trinket 2
Shift-V - Avenging Wrath
Shift-B - Tabard
L- Shirt
; - Equip Pole / Cast Fishing
Shift-; - Extract Gas Mote
, - Redemption
Alt-, - Mass Resurrection
Shift-, - Defibrilate
Num5 - Spam Trade
H - Summon Tyrael
O - Mouseover Cleanse
0 - Cleanse
U - Mouseover FoL
I - Mouseover HL
8 - Mouseover DL
F6 - Holy PvE Gear
F7 - Prot PvE Gear
F8 - Ret PvE Gear
F9 - Holy PvP Gear
F10 - Prot/Ret PvP Gear
- - Seal of Righteousness
= - Seal of Vengeance
Shift-T - Seal of Insight
Shift-Y - Seal of Justice

G1 - Vendor Mount
G2 - Turtle
G3 - Parachute
G4 - Plasma Shield
G5 - Mouseover BoP
G6 - Mouseover BoF
G7 - Mouseover Sac
G8 - Mouseover Salv
G9 - Shield Wall
G10 - Argent Defender
G11 - Mark Skull
G12 - Mark Box

Jump - Mouse Button 4
Autorun - Mouse Button 5

I think I'm still forgetting a few, actually.

I count a total of 91 keybinds.

So, yeah. I need a G15 because I play WoW with over 90 keybinds.


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 Post subject: Re: Dabbing Fingers With Rubbing Alcohol
PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:09 am  
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All my mouseovers and shit are on my healers and they all function as they would normally but give priority to mouseover targets, typically nondead friendly targets.


Aestu wrote:
So, yeah. I need a G15 because I play WoW with over 90 keybinds.

Or, do you play WoW with over 90 keybinds BECAUSE you have a G15?



Did you ever level Arch on Aestu? Seems like it's something you'd do. I ask because I can't tell for some reason. If you do, you should pick up the Last Relic of Argus. It has a short enough cast time that you can bubble and use it, somewhat ghetto bubble hearth. I'd do it on my paladin but I think I'm too lazy. Then again, I only leveled him so I could bubble hearth on people in BGs.


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