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 Post subject: Re: @ Boredalt
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:22 pm  
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Usdk wrote:
He'll probably insult you for paying his theoretical paycheck. Oh wait, he already did.


I don't get it. Would the theoretical paycheck be more justified in being paid if I were the gung-ho type? Or what are you saying? How does my cynicism change the equation if I'm doing the same job either way?

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Well, that's a damn shame, because you're exactly the kind of person the military needs.


In what respect?


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 Post subject: Re: @ Boredalt
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It's theoretical because you haven't gotten in yet.


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 Post subject: Re: @ Boredalt
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Typical Asshole University Bureaucrat wrote:
Finally! We have authorization to offer you $3,000 University Graduate Scholarship in spring (which starts in January) and another $3,000 for fall 2013. I’ll get the official paperwork to you this week.


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 Post subject: Re: @ Boredalt
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Dear Ms Andrew,

I have two questions:

First, the text of the document seems to indicate the scholarship is only applicable towards the tuition itself and not as a disbursement towards student expenses (books housing etc). Is my understanding correct, or is the scholarship in fact a disbursement for expenditure at student discretion?

Second, the document is signed by the director of the doctoral program. Is there not a separate administrator for the masters program? How does matriculation between the two programs work – is matriculation vertical or horizontal (mutually exclusive)?

Also, is there a PDF available showing the exact completion requirements?

Thanks,
Ethan Farber


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Your understanding is correct.

Administering scholarships to MS students is one of my new responsibilities, and I have not changed the letter template which was formerly under the purview of our PhD coordinator. Much of our scholarship money flows to doctoral students, who get full funding. Matriculation to the PhD program is vertical and highly competitive—I don’t think the accounting department took any doctoral candidates this year, though I don’t work closely with that program. You should not infer anything in particular from the signature on your scholarship document.


This is why I call these people assholes.


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 Post subject: Re: @ Boredalt
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Oh? Idk if that was sarcasm, but what makes you say that? Just curious, though it's not like my mum would let me even if I did want to. And no, being over 18 doesn't mean I can go against mum lol


I wasn't being sarcastic at all. You're smart, you're a decent human being, I don't think you'd have any trouble with the structure, and you're respectful of others and concerned with their well-being. After you finish your med-school degree...

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 Post subject: Re: @ Boredalt
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Jubbergun wrote:
smart

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decent human being

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structure

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you're respectful of others

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concerned with their well-being


None of those are required for military service.

Except in the brainwashed minds of America-hating military trash.


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Required? No. Preferred? Yes.

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 Post subject: Re: @ Boredalt
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Jubbergun wrote:
Required? No. Preferred? Yes.


What's preferred is the same thing that is preferred in any military or any other monolithic organization which is that you think and do exactly what you are told, and treat the organization as all that is good and awesome.

No, no one in the military really cares if one is smart, compassionate, capable of behaving except out of fear, respectful or a basically good person. The military has more than its share (emphasis on more than) of stupid, vicious, antisocial, rebellious, evil people. We see evidence of that all the time.

You're not going to tell us that military bars aren't the roughest in the the town. You're not going to tell us that mustered-out soldiers don't typically wind up back where they were without the army, on drugs, living out of their car, taking odd jobs and getting by on government checks. You're not going to tell us that these people know anything other than what some drill sergeant or ROTC indoctrinator or lifer CO shouted at them (well, ok, maybe they know what's on Fox News). You're not going to tell us that these people don't have a remarkable propensity to resort to physical intimidation when they don't get their way because they have absolutely no idea how to conduct themselves in normal human society. You're not going to tell us these thugs can handle themselves without a CO who can throw them in the brig if they don't think and do as told.

You're not going to tell us that we don't hear every other day, from My Lai to Abu Ghirab to that atrocious incident with the SS icon to the video of Marines punting animals off cliffs, about how these people do horrible things then get off without half the penalty they would face if they were civilians, protected by that so-moral military structure.

You're not going to tell any of us that's not true because everyone on this forum has seen all of that themselves whether they enlisted or not.

And you don't get to magically write any of that off because it doesn't agree with your ideal.

Bottom line is civilians who conduct themselves in those ways are quickly ostracized from mainstream society, and usually wind up in prison. In the military all of that is OK as long as you know when and how to get away with it and can hide behind the Honor Code: "only liars say that military trash lie".

What it doesn't have are people who question things or who think the military is exactly what it is: a parasite.


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