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on what will happen to Islam. i'm not really interested in your views on Islam, or religion in general. i ran across this FB page today :

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Everyb ... 425?ref=ts

and it got me thinking. obviously, it seems like the world is on the brink of no longer tolerating the majority of Muslims spitting on free speech, their vehement responses to questioning, and their violent responses to just about everything. im curious, though. what do you think will happen to them? the world's largest religion is pissing everyone off. somehow it seems like a breaking point will be reached. people are already protesting that no arrests were made when 10-15 muslims attacked that Swedish artist in the middle of class (which was videotaped). i tried not to generalize, i know some muslims are peaceful etc etc, if you're muslim i really wasn't trying to offend.

tldr; Islam in 10 years?

All of them will make the way of the dodo eventually.

There may be some clashes between extremist muslims and western cultures, but for the most part, muslims will integrate into our society and we'll be better off as a whole in 50 or so years.

Its just another wave of immigrants. I mean, look at the reactions to Muslims flooding into Europe and then compare that to the Irish/Italians flooding into this country at the turn of the 20th century.

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So, to start with, I have a great respect for the Muslim religion and Islam in general. The core of this religion is a very peaceful and productive way to live. But like every religion, there are a few nuts out there that fuck it up for everyone. However, these nuts have guns and bombs and think their sole purpose is to blow a mother fucker up.

I think the stand-offish reaction to muslims is going away. For the longest time everyone tried to respect their views, the crazy ones that is becasue the non nutjobs are some of the most productive members of society you can find. But those views have become crazier and crazier to the point of people just saying "FUCK YO COUCH" knowing that we (Americans and our allies) have bombed the fuck out of them and will do it again. This is not a great view but it does work. People dont threaten cartoon makers because they have Jesus get in a boxing match with Satan, but show a picture of Mohammed and fuckers are ready to kill. Every group can take a joke or shake things off except for the radical muslims and people are just simply not going to take it any more.

I think the Muslim religion in ten years will be intigrated into society even more because less and less people will put up with the bullshit of a few crazies. Plus, come on, killing an infidel for 72 virgins cant be that appealing. Give me a couple of disease free porn stars any day.

TLDR - a few crazy mother fuckers ruin it for everyone, muslims will be a much bigger part of western society in a decade.

9 level 90s and 10 85s, Damn I need another hobby.

Sorry, the wording on this really threw me... Some? There are over one billion muslims in the world, you can probably say less than 1/10 of 1% of them have ever commited a crime in the name of Islam.

And honestly, what do I think? I think that Islam is going through the same growth spurt Christianity did during the era of the Crusades. Except then, Christianity had the luxury of not having a 24 hour news cycle to document the atrocities they committed.

In most Western countries religiosity is declining rapidly as standards of living rise. It would be great if the same thing happened in the rest of the world, but that's probably decades away if it ever happens. I suspect such a decline also wouldn't be as natural as it was for comfortable Western Christians. Muslim leaders can inflame their followers about being a persecuted minority that needs to stick together because of things like the invasions of Iraq and Afganistan and the oppression of the Palestinians. If US foreign policy changes things might improve, but I don't think there's a very high chance of that happening.

Sorry guys - I watch Fox News.

Can someone explain to me why Islam is peaceful and where in the 'core' of Islam, or the Qu'ran, is that displayed? Personally, until they stop wanting to kill Westerners, the West should not relent in their destruction.

I'd buy this argument if: 1) Islam hasn't been waring with the world since before the birth of the USA... 2) Islam hasn't been waring with each other since the birth of the USA... 3) Islam was only aggresive towards Israel and the USA.

The fact that they've attacked places in Africa, Russia, Asia, Europe and North America makes me believe it's broader than, "We h8 Amurikkka!" I really think Zayri is right - they're on their religious crusade, as evident by different Islamic sects declaring Jihad on the west. In that case - wipe them out.

It's a fucking Abrahamic region. Its roots are in Christianity and Judaism. What separates it from them? Mohammed is seen as the last prophet of god, not Jesus; there are the five pillars which aren't unlike the 10 Commandments.

The 100 nutjobs in Al-Qaeda don't speak for the ONE BILLION Muslims in the world. Just like the priests who diddle little boys don't make up the entirety of the Catholic clergy.

And I guess I should clarify sort of what I meant in my first post. Yes, parts of Islam are growing through their rebellious phase, but again, compared to the vast majority of Muslims, those few splinter groups are miniscule compared to the masses of Muslims who only want what we want - a safe place for their kids to grow up.

But yes, if I had my way, we'd just fucking abolish religion already and move on -_-;

I think it's just a case of extremest viewpoints colliding with western culture.

There are millions upon millions of peaceful followers of Islam. However, that doesn't sell newspapers. The radicals who blow themselves up, declare jihads on everyone, abuse their women, etc....those are the ones that make headlines, and therefore people associate that with the entire religion.


There are extreme Christians too (think the Westboro Baptist Church, think people blowing up abortion clinics, etc). There are some pretty crazy things written in the Bible that fundamentalist Christians take as 100% fact and it causes them to do some pretty insane things. The Koran has this same issue.

like i said, i wasnt trying to offend anyone. im sure my viewpoints are skewed because 95% of the muslims i have met either shot at me, shot at my friends, blew something up that i was riding in, or came to my hospital after they were set on fire/stoned/flayed/burned with acid for being raped. im sure i'm a product of my environment, but i honestly have met very few peaceful devout muslims. im REALLY not trying to step on anyone's toes or create a religious war thread. i was just asking a theoretical discussion. please don't make me regret this inquiry.

I think Jesus and Muhammed are very, very different. Jesus was a more forgiving character. Muhammed was a more vindictive character. Muhammed led armies. Muhammeds disciples led armies. Muhammed loved cutting peoples heads off. Muhammed kept a portion of his war prisoneers as slaves. The Qu'ran even says that Muslims shouldn't befriend Jews or Christians. The Qu'ran speaks of Allah as a loving character... but Muhammed... damn, what a prick.

I'm going to remove myself from this discussion, as I know I can't stay civil.

GL;HF with it guys.

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I judge every civilization by how they treat their women.

A husband can accuse his wife of cheating and have her stoned to death in the street, no trial, no question.


Evil? possibly. Wrong? definitely. it's been a long time since they've contributed anything to the betterment of the human race, let them rot I say.


Same with the majority of africa, for that matter.

Couldn't agree more. Christians piss me off just as much.