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clearly i am not here enough haha <3 I miss you guys


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Amusing I didn't get categorized =)
I for one had no doubt Kay was talking about white people.

Community college is an interesting experience.

More often, I've seen the opposite side of the coin: hardscrabble lowborn students (presumably like Kay) who are way more industrious and effective than what you see at universities. I think the popular bias against community colleges is not only wrong but contrary to fact; I believe community college education is on the whole far superior to what most four-years offer.

Kay, I honestly find it extremely hard to believe what you describe purely because that kind of thing is unfathomable to me, but I have no doubt those people are as you say. It's just insane.

Incidentally, I have been looking to buy one of those young women, and would appreciate informed advice on how to go about it.
No, seriously, Kay. How would you suggest I go about buying one of those for a live-in?

My experience is somewhere in between. The system today is totally unfair to middle-class people who are too well-off to get any kind of aid whatsoever (and lose at every turn to zero-sum selections against people who get some sort of preferential selection) and not well-off enough to just pay for everything. It's even more unfair to people like my parents who have a positive net worth because of an extremely conservative lifestyle (we drove cars from the 80s, somewhere between "beaters" and new cars bought on debt) versus people who get preferential treatment because it seems that their attitude of entitlement (and massive debt load) seems to provoke a reciprocal response from so many people.

Honestly, I'm jealous of your ability to "bust your ass" in school, because I don't have that ability and I wish I did. I have always been able to get B+/A- easily enough just by brute-forcing everything with superior intelligence, fundamental skills, general knowledge and creativity, but I've never been able to work hard at school because as strange as it sounds I simply don't know how. It's an ability I've never developed. It's very frustrating.


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For the record people...my categorization was a joke...just in case there's any confusion ;)

Aestu, of course you know there's no way to ever lump you into any sort of category. You are a unique snowflake.


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Azelma wrote:
You are a unique snowflake.


I just realized how much I hate this phrase in context. Kinda like my hatred for being called a 'team player' at work.


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Aestu wrote:
Honestly, I'm jealous of your ability to "bust your ass" in school, because I don't have that ability and I wish I did. I have always been able to get B+/A- easily enough just by brute-forcing everything with superior intelligence, fundamental skills, general knowledge and creativity, but I've never been able to work hard at school because as strange as it sounds I simply don't know how. It's an ability I've never developed. It's very frustrating.


I have this problem too and I agree that it's really annoying.
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It's not like I want to pay (or make other people pay) for those welfare programs if the majority of the recipients were retards like the ones Kay was talking about. I do, however, believe that there are people who truly need the help. The way I see it is that liberals can see that there is a gray area (SOME people abuse it, MOST people don't) whereas conservatives don't (SOME people abuse it, I am wasting MY money, GET RID OF IT AND SCREW THOSE WHO NEED IT!). The whole "with us or against us" mentality comes to mind when I think of how one-minded conservatives can be.


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except this was actually targeting people who abuse the system.


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Aestu wrote:
Amusing I didn't get categorized =)
I for one had no doubt Kay was talking about white people.

Community college is an interesting experience.

More often, I've seen the opposite side of the coin: hardscrabble lowborn students (presumably like Kay) who are way more industrious and effective than what you see at universities. I think the popular bias against community colleges is not only wrong but contrary to fact; I believe community college education is on the whole far superior to what most four-years offer.

Kay, I honestly find it extremely hard to believe what you describe purely because that kind of thing is unfathomable to me, but I have no doubt those people are as you say. It's just insane.

Incidentally, I have been looking to buy one of those young women, and would appreciate informed advice on how to go about it.
No, seriously, Kay. How would you suggest I go about buying one of those for a live-in?

My experience is somewhere in between. The system today is totally unfair to middle-class people who are too well-off to get any kind of aid whatsoever (and lose at every turn to zero-sum selections against people who get some sort of preferential selection) and not well-off enough to just pay for everything. It's even more unfair to people like my parents who have a positive net worth because of an extremely conservative lifestyle (we drove cars from the 80s, somewhere between "beaters" and new cars bought on debt) versus people who get preferential treatment because it seems that their attitude of entitlement (and massive debt load) seems to provoke a reciprocal response from so many people.

Honestly, I'm jealous of your ability to "bust your ass" in school, because I don't have that ability and I wish I did. I have always been able to get B+/A- easily enough just by brute-forcing everything with superior intelligence, fundamental skills, general knowledge and creativity, but I've never been able to work hard at school because as strange as it sounds I simply don't know how. It's an ability I've never developed. It's very frustrating.


Trust me, it baffles me to know that that's how they are as well. And if someone were telling me themselves, I might not believe it. Half my friends are posting about how they can't wait to hang out with Lucy, Sydney, Molly, and/or Mary this weekend. Which are all code names for acid, acid, ecstasy, and weed respectively.

I didn't usually have to work my ass off to get good grades. I've managed to keep a 4.0 through my first semester and my exam scores are 90-100 this semester. I don't really bust my ass as much for the exam grades, it's just the projects and papers and clinical rotations that have taken up a lot of time, which I'm not used to. I didn't have any free time at all my first semester, hence my absence. I generally will look over the book chapters briefly the day before the exam and can figure most of it out. I just find it unfair that I put a lot of time into this and they put a lot of time into being lazy and partying. It must be nice.

And I think you're right about community college. Most of my friends that tried to rub in my face that they were going to 4 year college straight out of high school ended up dropping out and work at grocery stores and the like now. Which don't get me wrong, those jobs can lead to management positions that make a pretty decent living. I just don't ever see them pursuing those positions because it would take up too much of their partying time. Meanwhile I've moved on to 4 year college, made friends worth having, and will have my BSN next summer. I'm pretty proud of myself for working with the nothing I was handed and making it this far, anyway.


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Fantastique wrote:
It's not like I want to pay (or make other people pay) for those welfare programs if the majority of the recipients were retards like the ones Kay was talking about. I do, however, believe that there are people who truly need the help. The way I see it is that liberals can see that there is a gray area (SOME people abuse it, MOST people don't) whereas conservatives don't (SOME people abuse it, I am wasting MY money, GET RID OF IT AND SCREW THOSE WHO NEED IT!). The whole "with us or against us" mentality comes to mind when I think of how one-minded conservatives can be.


Well, as you said in another thread, "republicans aren't smart enough to make billions," which leaves us where? Living around the people who abuse the system, who we see in the unfashionable grocery stores and (oh, God forbid) Wal*Marts while you enlightened types are enjoying your trips to Whole Foods. From here, it looks like there are more than "some" who are abusing the system, which is why the people we vote for constantly suggest ways to prevent fraud in those systems, only to be told that they're just channeling "fuck you, got mine,' and that they want little kids and old people to starve.

Two funny things here:
1) Complaining about an 'us vs. them' mentality while describing republicans the way you do.
2) Complaining about a group of people being "one-minded" while channeling your inner Mayo.

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 Post subject: Re: So Florida...
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I always wished I knew how to bust my ass in school. My older sister could.....i just didn't have the patience. The thing is, it was easy to cram the night before and shit out A/B+ work...so I never HAD to consistently study/work at anything. I remember we used to have vocabulary tests to prepare for the SAT at my prep school...I'd cream 10 minutes before the quiz, get a 8-9 out of 10 and be done with it.

Basically led to me always having good grades, but never OMFG amazing.


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Azelma wrote:
I always wished I knew how to bust my ass in school. My older sister could.....i just didn't have the patience. The thing is, it was easy to cram the night before and shit out A/B+ work...so I never HAD to consistently study/work at anything. I remember we used to have vocabulary tests to prepare for the SAT at my prep school...I'd cream 10 minutes before the quiz, get a 8-9 out of 10 and be done with it.

Basically led to me always having good grades, but never OMFG amazing.


Should've creamed a little harder, IMO.

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As to my question - if you were me, how would you go about buying one of those loser girls as a live-in? Like, how would you find one and approach it with such an opportunity?

I do not like conventional dating, so this is an option I've been looking at.


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Usdk wrote:
except this was actually targeting people who abuse the system.


which is why I support it

I also do not believe I am one-minded, as evidenced by my stance on the issue in this thread. While it's not a huge example, I can usually see both sides of a coin before I decide which to support. The fact that I agree with most democrats isn't because I blindly support liberals, it's because most of the liberal agenda is in line with my beliefs - they are agreeing with ME, not the other way around.


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Aestu wrote:
As to my question - if you were me, how would you go about buying one of those loser girls as a live-in? Like, how would you find one and approach it with such an opportunity?

I do not like conventional dating, so this is an option I've been looking at.


Oh, I don't know. Maybe go to a community college or the local welfare office, that's probably a good bet lol. I try not to hang out with those people anymore, if I get in trouble I lose my future and they just aren't worth that.


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