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Religion is a human evil. It enshrines mistruth and irrationality, and pollutes the minds of the people.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

You're blaming religion for the weakness of man.

Religion is a creation of human weakness. Man is a means not an end - improvable, under the correct conditions. The eradication of superstition has been an ongoing hallmark of human progress.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

Stalin would agree.

And he'd be right. This is an ad hominem fallacy.

If destruction exists, we must destroy everything.
Shuruppak Yuratuhl
Slaad Shrpk Breizh

Thats not the point.

The point is that Stalin, a champion of atheism, purged MILLIONS.

People are just as evil with religion as they are without it.

Evil takes many forms and has many causes. The absence of one potential cause in a particular occurrence does not prove that the cause is invalid.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

Anything taken to an extreme becomes obnoxious and idiotic, which is probably why atheists on the internet have picked up so many of the habits of the religious. They're preachy, condescending, and smugly self-righteous. If it weren't for the difference in beliefs, you wouldn't be able to tell them apart.

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This is bullshit. Atheism isn't an extreme; it's the absence of extremes. There can't be a "difference in beliefs" because one of those things is the absence of belief. The reason atheists come off as preachy and condescending is because most of them can't understand why such a huge segment of the population would willingly be wrong.

If destruction exists, we must destroy everything.
Shuruppak Yuratuhl
Slaad Shrpk Breizh

Atheists also wouldn't murder their children by denying them perfectly viable treatments.

PS: Stopped caring about this argument. I can pretty much sub out the Jehovah's Witness thing with Honor Killings/Religious Sacrifice/Whatever and all of a sudden the situations become ENTIRELY different (probably because its cool to kill your children if you believe in Jesus, I guess).

RETIRED.
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He also had a mustache, clearly you're a mass-murderer if you're a mustachioed man. No, that's not right? Are you sure, because it's the same argument you're making with atheism. If you'd like to discuss the morals of your beliefs, that's one thing, but if you'd like to show your embarrassing lack of historical knowledge this isn't the right thread.



Pretty much this, when the case for murdering your kid was 'to show your strength' this conversation ended.

Dvergar /
Quisling

I don't see how believing that stalin purged millions of people is a lack of historical knowledge.

And I'm not saying that stalin was evil because he was an atheist or because he had a mustache.

I'm saying that when it comes to EVIL, HUMANITY is the only constant.

It only matters what you think they are, I suppose. There is a HUGE portion of these people who probably think you're an idiot and a terrible person because of your lack of faith. You don't care what any of them think. They don't care what you think.



100% agreed.



You should have ended this sentence here.



Sweet. We can start with religion, then we can start legislating against other forms of freedoms and thinking we don't agree with.

I completely understand everyone's disagreement, because I don't agree with these people. However, I personally know a LOT of people who have strong religious beliefs. These friends are from various faiths, including Catholics, Mormons, Methodists, Lutherans, Episcopalians, Baptists, Muslims and even a couple of JW's. I have had spirited discussions with many of them due to my disdain for organized religion. We don't agree, but they aren't idiots. They aren't bad people. They are some of the most intelligent, caring, helpful, productive people you could ever meet. Lumping all of these people into one pot of religious insanity is like saying all attorneys are over-litigious, douche bag liars out to cheat everyone in sight out of every cent they can get. Heeey... maybe after we legislate religion into oblivion, we can use the same tactic to rid ourselves of lawyers.

There you go. Now, let me have it!

Boredalt - 80 Dwarf Priest - Dissension

Yeah, you guys kinda missed USD's point entirely...

Also, in the Atheism vs Religious debate, I think they are one in the same because they both believe in something (or the lack of something) and try to convince the other side that they are correct and the other side is incorrect when neither side has any evidence.(absence of proof is not evidence).

I think agnostics are the ones who aren't extremes, although admittedly, I don't fully understand their views.

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Pretty much this.



I disagree. Any time you are saying something is 100% a certain way (as in "I am 100% confident that god does not exist") you are taking an extreme position.


Also, this is the definition of "belief":


Atheism is not an absence of belief...you still believe in things if you are an atheist, you BELIEVE that there is no god. A belief in the absence of something is still a belief.