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 Post subject: Re: murder vs attempted murder
PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:03 am  
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 Post subject: Re: murder vs attempted murder
PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:05 am  
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I feel sorry for people who know how to aim a gun. It's those incompetent criminals who have it good.


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 Post subject: Re: murder vs attempted murder
PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:47 am  
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If in hate crimes it'd the intent that's important, why is attempted murder such a lesser offense than.murder?


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 Post subject: Re: murder vs attempted murder
PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:16 pm  
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Usdk wrote:
If in hate crimes it'd the intent that's important, why is attempted murder such a lesser offense than.murder?


Because you're looking at it wrong. Attempted murder isn't a step down from murder, it's a step up from assault.


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 Post subject: Re: murder vs attempted murder
PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:07 pm  
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I don't think I'm looking at it wrong at all. I don't think attempted murder is treated as a serious enough offense.


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 Post subject: Re: murder vs attempted murder
PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:33 pm  
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Usdk wrote:
If in hate crimes it'd the intent that's important, why is attempted murder such a lesser offense than.murder?


Well... for starters are the two types of laws the same? If they're not, it would seem that the arguement is a bit non sequitur. I'm not saying you're wrong for questioning the laws, just that the laws you used might be too different to look at through such black and white lens. Surely, intent isn't the only element of a crime that is considered when a law gets made.


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 Post subject: Re: murder vs attempted murder
PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:23 pm  
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The idea of a hate crime is asinine.

Also, the quote goes "There's nothing more permanent than a temporary government program.".


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 Post subject: Re: murder vs attempted murder
PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:23 pm  
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The idea of a hate crime is asinine.


The idea behind hate crime laws is to punish mindsets. If you attack/kill people for things they can't control, you deserve to be in the slammer for longer.


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 Post subject: Re: murder vs attempted murder
PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:28 pm  
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Yuratuhl wrote:
Weena wrote:
The idea of a hate crime is asinine.


The idea behind hate crime laws is to punish mindsets. If you attack/kill people for things they can't control, you deserve to be in the slammer for longer.


Its asinine because it isn't RON PAUL. The government should just butt out of people's business and let
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 Post subject: Re: murder vs attempted murder
PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:32 pm  
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killing people is wrong no matter what color you are.


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 Post subject: Re: murder vs attempted murder
PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:37 pm  
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Usdk wrote:
killing people is wrong no matter what color you are.


The legality of murder should be left to the free market, you fucking Bolshevik.


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 Post subject: Re: murder vs attempted murder
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Totally unrelated...

What's Spacehunter's avatar mouthing? I can't stop watching it and it's starting to make me feel pervy.


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 Post subject: Re: murder vs attempted murder
PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:15 pm  
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Something about taking off pants. He posted a youtube of the clip somewhere. I'm sure Tehra will indulge me, as he's far less lazy than I am.


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 Post subject: Re: murder vs attempted murder
PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:51 pm  
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From Australia's Next Top Model some years ago. Some girl cut herself and Rebecca retold the story in her own words. God Bless.


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 Post subject: Re: murder vs attempted murder
PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:06 am  
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Yuratuhl wrote:
Weena wrote:
The idea of a hate crime is asinine.


The idea behind hate crime laws is to punish mindsets. If you attack/kill people for things they can't control, you deserve to be in the slammer for longer.

So, thought police?

How is a hate crime more grievous than it's non hate crime equivalent?

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Usdk wrote:
killing people is wrong no matter what color you are.


The legality of murder should be left to the free market, you fucking Bolshevik.


You're lack of understanding of a limited government mindset is almost as appalling as your refusal to make any attempt to understand it.


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