Fantastique wrote:
ITT: People hate Aestu and gangbang him. Again. We get it.
I'm getting sick of people instantly tossing his opinions out of the window because you don't like them. If you disagree, say so and state why. B mature. Nobody is EVER going to convince ANYONE to change their minds on these boards. If Aestu's responses make you guys this livid, I'm not so sure that he's the only one who needs to re-evaluate himself.
I used to be aboard the Aestu-Hate-Train. Then it became clear that his opinions are simply that - opinions. And everybody is entitled to have their own, and have them respected. Sometimes even I forget this fact, but I usually collect myself and apologize for it. Again, be mature.
Thanks.
When has Aestu ever been mature or respected anyone else's opinion that was not his own?
Aestu is merely having his own vitriol reflected back at him. If you'll recall...and I'm sure Synth could drum up accounts, many people have tried to discuss things with him reasonably (at least initially). However, he inevitably turns into a child and says "you're stupid and wrong" or "you're a nazi" and any civil discussion breaks down.
I don't have a problem with him having opinions...of course he can think whatever backwards thing he wants about how all cops eat babies or whatever....but the fact that he does it in such a condescending manner, resorting to personal attacks...it's no wonder that it's impossible to have any meaningful dialogue with him.
The whole concept of a thread being "Aestu'd" has its basis in fact.
Think of this thread, it started as just a funny story about some roid raging guy getting arrested....
Usdk wrote:
you weren't one of those 4 cops who had to wrestle a naked roid raging body builder to the jailhouse.
Aestu comes in:
Aestu wrote:
1. 4 vs 1
2. They have armor
3. They can raise the stakes in application of force as high as they like
4. A lot of cops are on roids
5. You jump at any chance to make thugs look like heroes
Regardless of the fact that he's expressing his opinion, and obviously trying to get Usdk's goat because of his respect for cops....he ends with point 5 (underlined) which is a direct shot at Usdk for no reason. 1-4 are passable, 5 is just Aestu being a pain.
Of course this gets a rise from Usdk, then there's some banter back and forth, when Aestu finally goes "Usdk is a Nazi"
Again, personal attack because he doesn't like Usdk's opinion.
I know you're a nice guy Fanta...and I felt the same as you ("LEAVE AESTU ALONE!") previously, but after trying to be friendly with him, and trying to have honest discussions with him...I've realized it's futile. He wants to be combative.
At least when I am arguing with Eturnal or Mayo or whoever I don't feel like it's a constant exercise in personal insults (though of course they are spread throughout any discussion here).
Aestu does this to himself - and it's not just Mayo being a Forum Czar banning him...it's how his whole approach to every thread and discussion is, and how it inevitably gets derailed as a result. Seriously, go and look at the directions many threads took in Aestu's absence.
If he could present his opinions without being an insufferable know-it-all-who-doesn't-know-shit, and if he could present his opinions without trying to insult everything about any person he is discussing things with.....maybe he wouldn't get the kind of hate he see's here.
In truth though, he likes it. So defending him won't serve any purpose. He knows it's not productive, but he likes trying to tear people down...it helps him cope with his own inadequacies. Everyone on this forum knows it from Zaryi to Mayo.
It's a shame too, because I think Aestu could do good things and actually have meaningful relationships if he wasn't such a fuck.