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If the information is classified then it should remain classified. No one is saying the government should have total opacity... but when it's about matters of national security or intel, especially in a time of war, then that shit should be kept under wraps.

The people who leak the information should be charged with treason and killed.

i don't see how obama being a dick about meeting with people has anything to do with this being a "time of war"



Because when it's not a "time of war" it's a CIA expenditure. If Assange wasn't useful in some way to that agency, he'd be dead right now.


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I think both sides of this are right.

There is some bullshit in there like the obama meeting thing(but its politics so hey) just like there's some people who might end up dead(I'm sure there's military dispositions and such in there, or people helping USA that shouldn't be).

I don't think gov't should get a free pass to do what they want and just classify it if it's illegal, but I respect the fact that sometimes secrecy is the only way to achieve a goal.

I'm torn.


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Usdk wrote:
I'm torn.


No you're not.

Usdk wrote:
I think both sides of this are right.


At the same time, both are wrong, and in the end, you're not pulled either way.


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Ok.

Who?

And how?


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If anything in there has to do with military movements(like that jackass on cnn drawing a map in the sand or whatever) then it could get people killed.


I don't konw enough about whats in there to say specifically what, but you're smart aestu, you can figure out some scenarios.


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The last leak had the names of some informants who turns on the Taliban/Al Qaeda. Those people were at risk.

This one may put intelligence personnel and ambassadors at risk. Additionally, it could spark anger against the US and Americans over seas may be targeted for attacks. Lastly, it may compromise future efforts since anyone [enemies] can see how our intel is gathered, what intel has been gathered and they can change their methods of movement, communication, intel, etc.

More can come from it but that's what I can list for now...
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Aestu wrote:
Ok.

Who?

And how?

The Victim: USD
The Location: The Parlor
The Weapon: A Sword
The Assailant: Tehra


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DAMN YOU COLONEL MUSTARDDD!!!


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rikkilake wrote:
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Ok.

Who?

And how?

The Victim: USD
The Location: The Parlor
The Weapon: A Sword
The Assailant: Tehra


Funny thing is, it's true.

I didn't mind Lil Wayne being in prison.

edit: No, USD(k), you don't need chainmail, I didn't mean you.


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What, are you people serious?
If this Assange guy was really that big of a thorn in someone's side, he would've been killed off years ago.


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Usdk wrote:
If anything in there has to do with military movements(like that jackass on cnn drawing a map in the sand or whatever) then it could get people killed.


I don't konw enough about whats in there to say specifically what, but you're smart aestu, you can figure out some scenarios.


I can't. It's not tactical data, just humiliating political stuff.

Also see: Watergate and "executive privilege".


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Aestu wrote:
Usdk wrote:
If anything in there has to do with military movements(like that jackass on cnn drawing a map in the sand or whatever) then it could get people killed.


I don't konw enough about whats in there to say specifically what, but you're smart aestu, you can figure out some scenarios.


I can't. It's not tactical data, just humiliating political stuff.

Also see: Watergate and "executive privilege".


Ever run an Islamic country where you're controlling the media, and releasing to the public that you're the ones attacking the AQ bases, then have it leak that you're just the US military's bitch?

Even politics are tactical.


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If the information is classified, it's the responsibility of the government and its agents to keep it that way. Whoever is responsible for the release of such information on the government end is responsible, not the media outlets that disseminates it after it become available.

I think they're going to deep fry the guy that leaked. Not sure they can (or should) do anything to the wikileak idiots.

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Jubbergun wrote:
If the information is classified, it's the responsibility of the government and its agents to keep it that way. Whoever is responsible for the release of such information on the government end is responsible, not the media outlets that disseminates it after it become available.


So in other words, you're an authoritarian.

What if the actions of the government's employees are against its own best interest? What's to be gained if the secrecy only undermines the national interest? Does it make sense to put a political principle above what is good and necessary in the here and now?

What's to be gained through this secrecy?


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Here is your actual WTF report, because lol politics.

http://www.broadcastnewsroom.com/articl ... id=1271571

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