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If you guys have only hung out 3 or 4 times I'd say you should just go for it. The worst that could happen is losing a minor friendship. She may be waiting for you to make the first move. Who knows?

Create a new beginning by telling her "Hey, I like you. Lets go out to dinner sometime."

Callysta of Reverence

Too much to drink on a Tuesday night. It's worked before.

If destruction exists, we must destroy everything.
Shuruppak Yuratuhl
Slaad Shrpk Breizh

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This friend zone thing is some bullshit made up by weak-willed guys who don't know how relationships start.



Doesn't mean anything, everyone is different in the way we express interest.



This is where you're fucking up. There is a difference between blatant and inappropriate though, so pick a good time but don't mince words. If you're worried about her not staying in the area, just tell her your feelings for her and if she stays you guys can see where it goes.



This makes the whole thing sound like some fifth grade drama.



Wait too long and you'll be shaking hands with the meathead douchebag who's plowing her because she didn't think you were interested.

Dvergar /
Quisling

Not a bad start but that could still just be a friendly thing to do. There's a difference between picking up the tab and saying "let me buy you a drink".

It's not quite asking her out on a date but it's showing a definite interest. It's not making your move, but it's letting her know that you might.

Akina: bitch I will stab you in the face

Mistake #1: overthinking.

Yeah, I do that... A LOT

Ask her for her benefits package.

wouldn't it be more appropriate to give her his package?

Give her a bit of the old ultra-violence.

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Whatever you do, make it clear. Women can overthink things too, so if you're going to create a situation where it becomes entirely her call, make sure she understands what she's deciding.

If you keep all your "advances" in a gray area, she won't know if she's reading you wrong or if you're actually interested in a physical relationship. So flirt obviously or just ask her outright if she wants to go out with you and skip all the "working up to it" stuff.

Also, do your best to stay confident about yourself and the whole thing. You don't want to force her into a corner where she feels like she might hurt your feelings if she tells you she honestly isn't interested. That leads to her becoming indecisive, and dragging out the whole process for you to a point where you are going insane because you can't get a straight answer. Eventually you'll get an answer, but it'll be a no and you'll wish you hadn't wasted your time waiting for it.

So, be clear and don't leave room for misinterpretation, and be confident or risk getting walked on until she gets the nerve to say no and perma-friendzones you.

Akiina - Priest - Royal Militia
Leeloo Minai Lekarariba-Laminai-Tchai Ekbat De Sebat

There's no worse feeling than that millisecond you're sure you are going to die after leaning your chair back a little too far.

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Women suck at being friends anyway, go for the goal.

And if need be, Akina will offer her services to beat this girl up for you. Trust me, she wants to hit someone with her crowbar.

Akina: bitch I will stab you in the face

People get caught in the friend zone by overthinking and forgetting that the friend zone is the starting point of reference, it either works up from there or it doesn't.

The "spark" some people get, is their genitals. That "nice romance" wouldn't last if there's no basis in friendship, and you don't know if it would even be "nice". You're setting yourself up with too high expectations instead of thinking rationally.

On the other hand, if you just want some poon then you go for it.

edit: unless you're talking about that "friend zone" concept where a guy does everything for a girl in the hopes of not being treated like a slave eventually. That's an erronous term for "spineless pussy".