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 Post subject: Re: A commentary on birthers from the WSJ:
PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:21 pm  
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What's your opinion of Schwarzenegger, Eturnal? Do you think he should have not been governor of California? Did the prospect of him running for prez outrage you?


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 Post subject: Re: A commentary on birthers from the WSJ:
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It wasn't illegal to run for governor was it? He had no way of legitamitely running for president did he?

wheres the outrage?


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 Post subject: Re: A commentary on birthers from the WSJ:
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Aestu wrote:
What's your opinion of Schwarzenegger, Eturnal? Do you think he should have not been governor of California? Did the prospect of him running for prez outrage you?

Hurpadurp. L2Read. I said I wasn't a birther so I'm not why you direct this at me.

From what little I know about California policy and politics, Schwarzenegger seems to be no different from previous governors of California. I'm guessing that some of his success has to do with his celebrity status much like Trump is doing well in the polls because of his. Being a good Terminator doesn't mean he's going to be a good Governor. As for his particular politics I can't speak to.

Arnold could run for President and I'm sure he could get some votes but those votes would be wasted because he's not a natural born American citizen. He is ineligible for the office of the Presidency and the outrage I'd feel would be towards those that wasted votes on him.
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 Post subject: Re: A commentary on birthers from the WSJ:
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Anybody that wasn't satisfied with reports in the newspaper and the certificate of live birth wasn't going to ever be satisfied with anything, anywhere, ever.


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 Post subject: Re: A commentary on birthers from the WSJ:
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The same thing happens with any situation involving true believers - evidence against their position didn't deter them before, and there's no reason to think more evidence will be any more effective. Creationists and global warming "skeptics" are the same, although I would be surprised if the WSJ ever publishes a similarly critical article about the later.


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 Post subject: Re: A commentary on birthers from the WSJ:
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He got onto Harvard Law Review because he's a moron, guys.

Do these idiots think before they speak?


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He's black Tuhl, duuuuuuuuuh


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 Post subject: Re: A commentary on birthers from the WSJ:
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Yuratuhl wrote:
He got onto Harvard Law Review because he's a moron, guys.

Do these idiots think before they speak?

Well, the argument isn't that he got into Harvard Law Review because he's a moron - it's because he's black. That's why there is interest in his college records. If the man is as smart and accomplished as everyone (present company, included) thinks then why not give full disclosure to grades, admission forms and papers he wrote? I know if I were the smartest man in all the world (like Obama is) I'd want to show everyone how smart I was -- especially if people were doubting my limitless genius.
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 Post subject: Re: A commentary on birthers from the WSJ:
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Yuratuhl wrote:
He got onto Harvard Law Review because he's a moron, guys.

Do these idiots think before they speak?



Really? Cuz i thought bush got into yale because he was a moron.

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 Post subject: Re: A commentary on birthers from the WSJ:
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Eturnalshift wrote:
Yuratuhl wrote:
He got onto Harvard Law Review because he's a moron, guys.

Do these idiots think before they speak?

Well, the argument isn't that he got into Harvard Law Review because he's a moron - it's because he's black. That's why there is interest in his college records. If the man is as smart and accomplished as everyone (present company, included) thinks then why not give full disclosure to grades, admission forms and papers he wrote? I know if I were the smartest man in all the world (like Obama is) I'd want to show everyone how smart I was -- especially if people were doubting my limitless genius.


Law Review papers are available through university presses and law journals. Odds are the reason those aren't accessible by everyone is because academic publishers love money just as much as everyone else. I suppose if we're talking specifically about articles he authored or co-authored, he'd be able to release them if he got the appropriate permissions. It would be somewhat tedious, though that's not really a defense. I just doubt anyone who wants to find a reason to think he's dumb will even read the articles in question.

Admission forms are held by the universities. I'm pretty sure they can't actually release them. There are cases on how affirmative action can and can't be used in an academic context, though. As for his grades, I imagine his GPA shows up somewhere on his resumé, which is probably on file wherever he's worked in the past.

And USD, not to be that guy, but there's kind of a difference between Yale undergrad as a legacy and the Harvard Law Review. You could have cited his MBA instead, that would probably have been better.


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 Post subject: Re: A commentary on birthers from the WSJ:
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Your speculation is as good as anyone elses. The only paper that surfaced with Obama's name was something about abortion and a fetus suing after abortion... that's it. If Obama is as scholarly as we're led to believe then wouldn't there be more? There are a lot of people looking for Obama's information that he hides, refuses to release or doesn't volunteer... and I'm sure those people have scoured every database and purchased every paper that might be linked to Obama in hopes of finding a gem on his thinking in college. Truth is, both of us can only speculate on his performance in school and how he climbed to such great heights... until he starts releasing information both sides of the argument are equally valid.
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 Post subject: Re: A commentary on birthers from the WSJ:
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I dont like him. I wasn't racist when I disagreed with Clinton or W. I'm not racist now. If you think I'm racist because I disagree with a black guy, then you're racist.


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 Post subject: Re: A commentary on birthers from the WSJ:
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You're entitled to disagree with him. That's really not the issue. I don't think anyone will say you're not allowed to disagree with Obama.

What's got people annoyed is an old white guy who was born to money and hasn't done better than a bachelor's from Fordham saying a Harvard Law scholar only got to where he was thanks to affirmative action.


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 Post subject: Re: A commentary on birthers from the WSJ:
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Yuratuhl wrote:
You're entitled to disagree with him. That's really not the issue. I don't think anyone will say you're not allowed to disagree with Obama.

What's got people annoyed is an old white guy who was born to money and hasn't done better than a bachelor's from Fordham saying a Harvard Law scholar only got to where he was thanks to affirmative action.


What should annoy you is how two people in power are playing people's heartstrings to the tune of race war.

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 Post subject: Re: A commentary on birthers from the WSJ:
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So if he got in through Affirmative Action what exactly would that mean to you? You already don't like him, you were never going to vote for him, you're going to believe whatever shit the right insinuates, what would this change?

Do you honestly believe the grades a person gets in school is going to be indicative of their ability as president? Not to mention IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE HE'S ALREADY THE PRESIDENT, HE'S ALREADY WON.

Disagree with his politics all you want but knock it off with the butthurt. The country's in real bad shape and you're feeding right into this pointless shit. And yes, yes it is racist.


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