Jubbergun wrote:
You didn't start this thread, but this thread wasn't the beginning of the drama. Consider what was.
I've had a long time to "consider" it.
The beginning of the drama was that I chose to step up to the plate way back in T7 content, and won the enmity of people who couldn't handle responsible pugging, but not the gratitude of people who shared my aims but didn't have it in them to do so. Since then, time and again that same cycle has played out.
The NQR troupe first formed out of Play Time/Enrage Inc, and the reason I didn't participate in those was that some people still held petty grudges from way back in T7 despite the fact that all I did was be fair and refuse to play favorites or be an elitist (in the sense that some people felt they were so elite, they should be free from the requirements that apply to everyone else).
By the time T10/T11 came out, the lines were pretty well drawn.
Whenever I did something everyone wanted a piece of it. When I said "no" then suddenly I became the bad guy and NOT the people who didn't have it in them to lift a finger.
One vivid example was when I actually asked Purpledrink to attend a Ulduar Immortal run; he made a bs excuse because he didn't want to risk his precious time and effort, and as a result he didn't get certain kills he needed. Next week, we were back, and he got on vent and imperiously demanded to be brought in for the things he "needed" that had been done last week. Of course, I was instantly the bad guy for adhering to the principle that fence-riding shouldn't be rewarded.
I was asked to join EI after being initially rejected because their beloved Dorm flaked and QQd during HLK25 progression because he didn't have it in him to man up and do a few things better. I later learned that a lot of the people most enthusiastic about my helping out secretly hated my guts. I should have known, really. But come again next tier guess who I'm being asked to spend my time to help gear up for the raid?
Several times in NQR I asked, agreed, or offered to help with this or that PvE and instantly became the bad guy when I got tired of wiping back-to-back on snake or bear or eagle boss (no, really) or Atramedes or normal mode Cho'gall, "LOL WE'RE 13/13 ON OUR MAINS THESE ARE OUR ALTS" "WE WORKED HARD FOR OUR ZA BEARS ON OUR MAINS". Obviously, my agreeing to help, then getting pissed when my patience and good will is utterly abused, makes me a worse guy than those who refused to help at all.
You can make this something personal if you like. But as I said, I've had a very long time to consider it carefully, and the only recurring theme is that I did what others did not - had the balls to step forward, not just "go with the flow" - and got cut down for it.
You want proof? I can give you proof. These guys have never met with anything but failure unless they're paired with someone - me, Mazeltov, Xeyali, or Play - that will give them what they don't have - that willingness to take responsibility. They bitch and cry about me just as they did about Mazel or Xeyali and just as they still mock the perceived naivete of Play's GM. They were something like 4/13 heroic, for no other reason than sheer lack of self-discipline, until they went and joined a guild that provided that discipline they can't impose on themselves.
Time and again they get into that kind of dynamic. It always ends the same way. They walk off and talk about how it was all fail.
There are bigger constants here than me.
