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I was pretty sick that the reporters were interviewing children on the same day. Meaning that either the vultures did it without parental consent, which is bad, or with parental consent, which is even worse.

I'll agree with you there.

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@Kay, I think as far as conspiracy theorists go, there's nothing those assholes won't touch and its not worth giving them the time of day.

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I don't think it's a conspiracy theory, honestly. I read that way after the fact. These were all things that came about throughout the day that made me go "wait, what?" so I looked it up and found that link. I mean there were 5 different descriptions of the mother. First she was a teacher and was dead at the school (along with apparently other family members in Hoboken), then she was at their home and was a substitute while the kid was a past student, then neither of them had ever been affiliated at all with the school. And she went from being a normal lady who liked to garden to a paranoid gun nut. Seriously every aspect of the story changed like 3-5 times within a few hours.

At the absolute very least, the media are fucking morons and nobody checks any facts at all (surprise surprise). I just thought it was weird. One or two things being wrong I can understand but the first day's reports were almost all entirely wrong. I can't think of anything other than the body count that was correct. And if they're going to be so inaccurate they should at least answer for it.

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It's not that they're morons (they are, but that's not the reason), it's that people want news immediately these days, no matter the situation, so any given news organization doesn't have the time to fact-check or verify everything before rushing to publish/release/air. It's easier to print a retraction the new day than it is to lose viewers/subscribers because your competition got the word out while you were scanning documents to make sure it was right.

I don't condone sensationalism, but that's the current state of affairs.

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Retractions are great and welcome, honestly, but like half the information released was just never addressed again. Like the multiple shooters - who were the people they had in cuffs? There were at least 2. Did they end up being scared parents? Just say that. Then there's the fact that a bunch of news stories, including from the town months before, said that the school now had a new system where people had to have ID and be buzzed in by video feed. I know he shot his way in, but that should have showed up on the surveillance, and nobody has said anything about it o_O This whole thing is just fucking weird and and horrible and it gives me a headache.

s^ | Kay

At one point they suspected multiple shooters, the other guy in handcuffs was his brother. I'm assuming his brother showed up to try to talk sense into him.

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It's not so much sensationalist as it is the imperative; to most established news organizations, breaking news isn't that big of an accomplishment. It's just something that happens. The AP, for one, generally only breaks stories to the public when the facts have been checked to a reasonable extent. (Not that they're immune to inconsistencies or errors—it's just that the AP as a wire service is designed for breaking news. There's a system in place to prevent wanton misinformation, à la that of CNN during most "breaking" events during its lifetime, but it's not perfect.)

It's hard to get the facts right in the heat of the moment. That doesn't mean we always get them properly sorted once things have settled down again. In this case, though, I think it's mainly that new organizations were trying to provide coverage as quickly as possible, and mistakes were made...like usual.

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Also the gunman DID go to school there as a child. He was pulled and homeschooled.

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His brother was in New Jersey at work, then he left to go home and facebooked that it wasn't him. They put him in handcuffs at his apartment. The multiple shooters thing was going by the police tapes/video footage. I'd give them a listen honestly.



Was this confirmed? Last I heard the family was saying he didn't, but the school was saying he did but they couldn't remember when and a classmate was saying he remembered him. It's really hard to get the facts straight in this case >.< Especially in a case as sensationalized as this, everyone just wants their name in the news. ugh. i think i'm done with this lol

s^ | Kay

People wanting to be part if the story is part of the reason why initial reports are often unreliable. The police didn't know what was really going on until a bit later.

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Accoustics and gunfire can sound crazy to people who haven't been around them before. It very well could have been a single shooter and sounded like multiple, depending on the echoes. Or it could have been multiple shooters, who knows?

Only Barack Obama knows, and his CIA cronies who shot kindergarteners to pave the way for gun control. Amirite

Brawlsack

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No, in no way am I a conspiracy theorist. I'm just saying some random civilian in the heat of the moment may have been mistaken about the number of shooters.