The Media's Role in Perpetuating Mass Shootings

Battletard · **Posted:** Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:15 pm

Azelma wrote:

Right on Christian Bale.

As well as Christian Bale's PR group.

Now I hope he gets into his Batman getup, and then beats the fuck out of the murderer while he sits in his cell.

Obviously he stands to benefit from this, but I doubt that's his motivator.

If you were in a position to help others, I'm sure you would if you had the same means that he does.

Meowth · **Posted:** Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:10 pm

Battletard wrote:

Azelma wrote:

Right on Christian Bale.

As well as Christian Bale's PR group.

Now I hope he gets into his Batman getup, and then beats the fuck out of the murderer while he sits in his cell.

Obviously he stands to benefit from this, but I doubt that's his motivator.

If you were in a position to help others, I'm sure you would if you had the same means that he does.

In his position there is some sort of obligation even though it means fuck all.

Kayllaira · **Posted:** Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:23 pm

Meowth wrote:

Battletard wrote:

Azelma wrote:

Right on Christian Bale.

As well as Christian Bale's PR group.

Now I hope he gets into his Batman getup, and then beats the fuck out of the murderer while he sits in his cell.

Obviously he stands to benefit from this, but I doubt that's his motivator.

If you were in a position to help others, I'm sure you would if you had the same means that he does.

In his position there is some sort of obligation even though it means fuck all.

I can only imagine working so hard on something, unveiling it to an audience, and finding out that audience was killed for coming out to support what you did.

Aestu · **Posted:** Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:53 pm

I don't see how it helps. It seems to me like just a shallow attempt to reclaim a silver lining from the ruined release.

People want to be alone with their grief. If someone important to you dies horribly, a visit from Krusty the Klown or a new toy isn't going to make you feel better, nor would you want to feel better.

He just wants what every Hollywood dude wants which is publicity.

Battletard · **Posted:** Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:53 pm

Meowth wrote:

Battletard wrote:

Azelma wrote:

Right on Christian Bale.

As well as Christian Bale's PR group.

Now I hope he gets into his Batman getup, and then beats the fuck out of the murderer while he sits in his cell.

Obviously he stands to benefit from this, but I doubt that's his motivator.

If you were in a position to help others, I'm sure you would if you had the same means that he does.

In his position there is some sort of obligation even though it means fuck all.

I think that's true, but I think it's not so much an obligation as it is an expectation, which can turn into an obligation in terms of keeping up on your PR game.

I wouldn't say it means fuck all. I think the victims value his time and effort, and even though he benefits from it I think most human beings in general would do the same.

I think it's ridiculous that people both expect it of celebrities to step up when things like this happen and yet those same people are the first to call it a publicity game.

Battletard · **Posted:** Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:55 pm

Aestu wrote:

I don't see how it helps. It seems to me like just a shallow attempt to reclaim a silver lining from the ruined release. People want to be alone with their grief. He just wants what every Hollywood dude wants which is publicity.

I respectfully disagree. I think everyone is different and I think that the person in the hospital bed smiling for a photo with him would disagree too.

It's not all black and white.

Jubbergun · **Posted:** Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:02 am

Aestu wrote:

I don't see how it helps. It seems to me like just a shallow attempt to reclaim a silver lining from the ruined release.

I wouldn't say the release was "ruined," since it went on to rake in money hand-over-fist, which is what it was supposed to do. As chickenshit and girly as most people are, I was pleasantly surprised there wasn't a wave of "don't go see Batman, you'll get your ass shot off."

Your Pal,
Jubber

Battletard · **Posted:** Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:39 am

Jubbergun wrote:

Aestu wrote:

I don't see how it helps. It seems to me like just a shallow attempt to reclaim a silver lining from the ruined release.

I wouldn't say the release was "ruined," since it went on to rake in money hand-over-fist, which is what it was supposed to do. As chickenshit and girly as most people are, I was pleasantly surprised there wasn't a wave of "don't go see Batman, you'll get your ass shot off."

Your Pal,
Jubber

"hurrr boycott batman in support of CO gun victims derp RIP IN PEACE NEVAR FROGIT"

Necrachilles · **Posted:** Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:31 am

Zaryi · **Posted:** Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:53 am

Azelma · **Posted:** Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:22 am

http://gma.yahoo.com/james-holmes-bough ... ories.html

Quote:

Accused movie theater gunman James Holmes purchased a high-powered rifle hours after failing a key oral exam at the University of Colorado, ABC News has learned.

Holmes added the weapon to his already growing arsenal June 7, hours after he took a key oral exam at the college. ABC News station KMGH-TV in Denver reported that he failed the exam. Three days later, he dropped out of the neurosciences program with no explanation.

Holmes, 24, is being held without bond in connection with the shooting, which left 12 people dead and 58 injured July 20 during a midnight screening of "The Dark Knight Rises."

Experts say it's possible Holmes had an underlying mental illness that was triggered by the stress of failure.

"All of those things could actually make dormant schizophrenia come out, and come out relatively quickly," said Marisa Randazzo, a psychologist who studies targeted violence.

So genius boy was starting to fail, and decided to get some more guns and finally go through with the shooting.

What a sick fuck.

Eturnalshift · **Posted:** Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:28 pm

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/25/ex ... mailed-to/

Quote:

James Holmes, the accused gunman in last Friday's midnight movie massacre in Colorado, mailed a notebook "full of details about how he was going to kill people" to a University of Colorado psychiatrist before the attack, but the parcel sat unopened in a mailroom for as long as a week before its discovery Monday, a law enforcement source told FoxNews.com

“Inside the package was a notebook full of details about how he was going to kill people,” the source told FoxNews.com. “There were drawings of what he was going to do in it -- drawings and illustrations of the massacre."

Among the images shown in the spiral-bound notebook’s pages were gun-wielding stick figures blowing away other stick figures.

Azelma · **Posted:** Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:22 pm

Fuck.

That's just like the VT massacre, that crazy guy had been on counseling radars etc. and still nothing was done.

*Sigh*

Eturnalshift · **Posted:** Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:31 pm

1) Out all all individuals, how would we accurately identify the crazies prior to an attack?

2) Once we think there is an identified crazy, who is responsible for cross-checking that assessment?

3) What do you do with the identified crazies? What about those that haven't broken any laws?

4) Do all 'crazies' present a risk to the public?

Azelma · **Posted:** Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:55 pm

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1) Out all all individuals, how would we accurately identify the crazies prior to an attack?

Well, I'd hope that counselors, psychologists, etc. are trained to recognize someone who is a potential threat to themselves or others and report it to authorities/higher ups/fellow counselors (whoever). My girlfriend is studying to be a counselor...if they think someone is going to harm themselves or others, they have an exact procedure to follow. If someone is talking real crazy in a session, then they can commit them. The VT shooter had been in Virginia Tech's counseling services, it seems that people just didn't recognize the threat. This case seems to be a simple "miss" with a package sitting unopened in an office. Had someone opened it, I would have hoped they would have taken proper steps.

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2) Once we think there is an identified crazy, who is responsible for cross-checking that assessment?

See above. There are procedures in place, people who should be notified, etc.

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3) What do you do with the identified crazies? What about those that haven't broken any laws?

Commit them. Get them on medication. Put them on suicide watch. Inform their family. Inform the authorities (depending on how serious a threat you think they are). There are all sorts of things you can do if someone is talking to you and says something like "I've thought about shooting people" -- that's a red flag that should be taken quite seriously, and can be.

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4) Do all 'crazies' present a risk to the public?

To a certain extent, most definitely. Some risks are more serious than others. There's a few homeless people around my office who are crazy. One guy is clearly schizophrenic, always yelling obscenities at someone who isn't there. Is he a "risk" to the public? Yes, he could flip out and attack someone, or run out into traffic, or any number of things. His risk is minimal compared to a crazy like this guy who wasn't homeless, had access to some sort of cash to get weapons, was smart/mentally capable enough to plan out an attack, and so on.

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