So I finally got Skyrim... But Now I'm Too Busy With Pokemon

Aestu · **Posted:** Fri May 04, 2012 7:58 am

Meowth wrote:

It's like nostalgia. You remember how amazing something was all those years ago then when you go replay it nothing is the same and it really was horrible. But since it was the first one you played and liked you think it is amazing and cannot be surpassed.

This is propaganda by corps trying to market crap.

Battletard · **Posted:** Fri May 04, 2012 8:43 am

Elder Scrolls Online could be good, if implemented well, and if they can solve the challenges of translating a single player RPG to have characteristics appropriate for an MMO. I feel like the Elder Scroll's Combat system leaves more potential for skill being a factor than something such as WoW in PvP scenarios (see also: Tera)

It could be complete dog shit. Only time will tell, and people who are jumping the gun either way this early are bad and should feel bad.

Azelma · **Posted:** Fri May 04, 2012 9:27 am

Grimmgor wrote:

i still find it hard to believe anybody actually enjoyed fallout 3 or skyrim. i haven't actually played morrowind/oblivion for more then half an hour but i didn't like them either.

Da fuck?

You played morrowind for a half hour - and decided you didn't like it? A game like that you have to at least give it a few hours. And what didn't you like about it (and don't say "errors" because that's just absurd)?

I can accept you disliking Skyrim and even Fallout 3....hell even Oblivion...whatever. But Morrowind? Get out of here.

Spacehunter · **Posted:** Fri May 04, 2012 9:40 am

I played Morrowind for an hour or two when i first bought it (a bit after Oblivion came out) and couldn't get into it at all. Thought it was just weird and the combat was arse.

Got into Oblivion a year ago (when the Skyrim hype started picking up) and played the shit out of it.

Bought Skyrim and played the shit out of it.

Installed Morrowind yesterday. After i get the pretty graphics mods and shit i'll likely play the shit out of it.

Not sure what to make of an online Elder Scrolls. If it's not super open world then to me it's not an Elder Scrolls game, and i don't know how you can translate than to an MMO and have me still give a shit about the game.

Yuratuhl · **Posted:** Fri May 04, 2012 11:56 am

Battletard wrote:

Elder Scrolls Online could be good, if implemented well, and if they can solve the challenges of translating a single player RPG to have characteristics appropriate for an MMO. I feel like the Elder Scroll's Combat system leaves more potential for skill being a factor than something such as WoW in PvP scenarios (see also: Tera)

It could be complete dog shit. Only time will tell, and people who are jumping the gun either way this early are bad and should feel bad.

Combat in Elder Scrolls games is 100% braindead. It doesn't leave any potential open for skill, it's CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK. You have one attack. Use until target dies.

Grimmgor · **Posted:** Fri May 04, 2012 1:51 pm

Azelma wrote:

Da fuck?

You played morrowind for a half hour - and decided you didn't like it? A game like that you have to at least give it a few hours. And what didn't you like about it (and don't say "errors" because that's just absurd)?

I can accept you disliking Skyrim and even Fallout 3....hell even Oblivion...whatever. But Morrowind? Get out of here.

Yuratuhl wrote:

Combat in Elder Scrolls games is 100% braindead. It doesn't leave any potential open for skill, it's CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK. You have one attack. Use until target dies.

this is why. i don't care how "rich" the world is. if it's atrocious to play, then it isn't drawing me in.

Yuratuhl · **Posted:** Fri May 04, 2012 2:24 pm

I was able to ignore how bad the combat was in Morrowind because the world was very different and they put a lot of work into making it cool and nonstandard. Trees are giant mushrooms instead. All of the fauna is vaguely insectoid and neat-looking. Shit, humans aren't even the dominant humanoid. And you could kill anyone you wanted, instead of this bullshit "target is unconscious because they're plot-relevant."

Oblivion? Everyone's a human, even the nonhumans. Also, the monsters are wolves and bears and shit, instead of being awesome, alien-looking fantasy monsters. I don't give a shit about things that exist in real life.

Skyrim? Same fucking problem. Oh no guys, polar bears and more wolves! The humans are slightly different, because now they're VIKINGS! It's fine, there's also dragons. But wait, they're so easy to kill you might as well be fighting a target dummy.

Lucinth · **Posted:** Fri May 04, 2012 3:41 pm

Yuratuhl wrote:

It's fine, there's also dragons. But wait, they're so easy to kill you might as well be fighting a target dummy.

My BADASS VIKING begs to differ.

Battletard · **Posted:** Fri May 04, 2012 10:32 pm

Yuratuhl wrote:

Battletard wrote:

Elder Scrolls Online could be good, if implemented well, and if they can solve the challenges of translating a single player RPG to have characteristics appropriate for an MMO. I feel like the Elder Scroll's Combat system leaves more potential for skill being a factor than something such as WoW in PvP scenarios (see also: Tera)

It could be complete dog shit. Only time will tell, and people who are jumping the gun either way this early are bad and should feel bad.

Combat in Elder Scrolls games is 100% braindead. It doesn't leave any potential open for skill, it's CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK. You have one attack. Use until target dies.

What if they gave users 'yellow damage' type abilities to be used as well as cooldowns, but required manual use of autoattack / shield block type abilities? I feel like this would be a good way to move forward.

Xeoni · **Posted:** Sun May 06, 2012 12:54 pm

Battletard wrote:

Yuratuhl wrote:

Battletard wrote:

Elder Scrolls Online could be good, if implemented well, and if they can solve the challenges of translating a single player RPG to have characteristics appropriate for an MMO. I feel like the Elder Scroll's Combat system leaves more potential for skill being a factor than something such as WoW in PvP scenarios (see also: Tera)

It could be complete dog shit. Only time will tell, and people who are jumping the gun either way this early are bad and should feel bad.

Combat in Elder Scrolls games is 100% braindead. It doesn't leave any potential open for skill, it's CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK. You have one attack. Use until target dies.

What if they gave users 'yellow damage' type abilities to be used as well as cooldowns, but required manual use of autoattack / shield block type abilities? I feel like this would be a good way to move forward.

Yes, yes, I see. How about an option to change one's combat perspective? Examples being a stance or possibly an aura.

Edit: Are we still fucking around with wow combat terms? Anyway, you don't play Skyrim for the combat. Simple enough.

Grimmgor · **Posted:** Sun May 06, 2012 1:07 pm

except an RPG with shit combat is completely unbearable to play through. i would go as far to say that baldur's gate combat is pretty shit in terms of how fun it is, but it at least requires thought and preparation. skyrim is literally mash your mouse button and hope some retarded execution animation doesn't kill you from full health, since you can do nothing about it. the only times i managed to die in that game was where some asshole nowhere even close to me somehow lops my head off in some fixed animation that comes from fucking nowhere.

Yuratuhl · **Posted:** Sun May 06, 2012 1:27 pm

Xeoni wrote:

Edit: Are we still fucking around with wow combat terms? Anyway, you don't play Skyrim for the combat. Simple enough.

You sure as shit don't play it for the story either. Or the setting.

Xeoni · **Posted:** Sun May 06, 2012 3:15 pm

Grimmgor wrote:

except an RPG with shit combat is completely unbearable to play through. i would go as far to say that baldur's gate combat is pretty shit, but it at least requires thought and preparation. skyrim is literally mash your mouse button and hope some retarded execution animation doesn't kill you from full health, since you can do nothing about it. the only times i managed to die in that game was where some asshole nowhere even close to me somehow lops my head off in some fixed animation that comes from fucking nowhere.

Goddamn Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance... Memories, man, memories.

Grimmgor · **Posted:** Sun May 06, 2012 7:02 pm

oh god i was talking about actual baldur's gate.

dark alliance was fun as shit though. i feel as if i'm the only one who played those games at times.

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Battletard · **Posted:** Sun May 06, 2012 9:33 pm

All I'm saying is that an Elder Scrolls / traditional MMO combat system hybrid would be amazing, and could make up for the weaknesses of each in their standard form, at least in my opinion.

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