Mns wrote:
I "never" said that "Ron" Paul had no "support". "I" said that "Ron" Paul is"n't" popular with the people in the Republican party that "matter" and "vote" in the "primaries" and this might "have" something to "d"o with the "fact" that "Ron" Paul is the exact "opposite" on almost every "key" issue.
The people that "matter" in the primaries are the ones that show up and vote, and taking second and third in two of the three contests shows that those people are voting for Ron Paul. Those people obviously disagree with you about what their positions on key issues are.
Mns wrote:
Also, "you" really shouldn't talk about how im"press"ive "Ron" Paul is doing for being "crazy", considering Gingrich and Romney have literally no sense of "morals" or "decency" and Santorum is "literally" insane. The guy kept a "dead fetus" in his house for a couple "days" and introduced the "miscarried" "fetus" to his kids as a member of their "family".
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American Pregnancy Association advises parents of stillborn babies: "With the loss of your baby, your family members will also grieve. Your baby is someone's granddaughter, brother, cousin, nephew or sister. It is important for your family members to
spend time with the baby. This will help them come to terms with their loss." In the case of parents who have other children, the APA adds, "it is your decision whether you would like the children to see the baby." That's the choice the Santorums made. For you to make out like it's somehow weird or deviant is crass and ignorant. Mourning rituals involving the display of a dead body are not limited to deaths that occur before or soon after birth...or perhaps you're not familiar wakes or open-casket funerals?
Mns wrote:
Let's not forget how ridiculous "libertarianism" is as a serious way of "getting" things "done" and either "Ron" Paul is either a "decades"-strong racist or so blatantly "out of the loop" that he didn't "notice" people publishing "news"letters and "books" bashing everything from minorities to AIDS "patients" over the past "30" or so years.
Those ideals worked very well until we decided to start concentrating power in a central authority, never mind that most of the things you (seem to) espouse requires a fix that requires a fix that requires fix ad infinitum in order for them to work (protip: they somehow never manage to work quite right). It's been 60-80 years of continuing to 'tweak' the system, how long before we can admit that tweaking isn't working so we can try something else, another 60-80? Every time someone here says, "that doesn't work," you and others say, "well it works in Europe." Is that why we're waiting with baited breath for the EU economy to collapse and drag the rest of the globe alone with it? Even in the (very few) countries where some of those policies do work, there's no real parallel to the US. Those (mostly Scandinavian) countries have the benefits of shared culture that embrace mostly the same ideals and traditions among the majority of the population. We live in a country where you can't even grieve your dead child without someone labeling you as some kind of freak. It's comparing apples to oranges, and while the oranges taste great and are super nutritious, you're shit out of luck if all you have to work with is apples.
Mns wrote:
No, I have actual, serious problems with libertarianism, but we've already gone over those in other threads, only to have a small novel's worth of "rebuttals" (that was a serious use of quotations, btw) that manage to waste a lot of my time reading them and literally amounting to about as much information as this empty iced tea bottle that's next to my computer that I really need to throw away.
That you either refuse to grasp or are incapable of grasping the meaning of the things that are clearly spelled out isn't the fault of anyone but yourself. It's not like you've ever had anything approaching a rational conversation on the subject. The majority of your responses are nothing but snide quips and sarcasm which only grow worse when someone actually does make a point you can't refute.
Mns wrote:
Also, if you can't appreciate how ridiculous it is for people who have been handed absolutely everything in life to all of a sudden start demanding that people pull themselves up by their own bootstraps and stop taking handouts since they decrease the size of their paycheck they get from the jobs their parents got them, I don't know what to tell you.
There are plenty of people who adopt libertarian philosophy in whole or in part who haven't cracked their teeth on silver spoons, so again, if that is biasing you in any way (and clearly it's an issue, otherwise why mention it?) you're obviously thinking about the subject more emotionally than rationally.
Your Pal,
Jubber
