Dotzilla wrote:
are you guys really arguing about whether an oyster can feel you devouring it? no, it can't feel it. it has no nervous system. it can't even comprehend that it is being devoured. it has the same amount of consciousness as a cucumber.
Do you mean land cucumbers or sea cucumbers? I could agree with the latter but not the former.
Anyway, since it clearly wasn't obvious enough from the very fact I generally don't talk about my vegetarianism, the question was a joke. I am actually not a vegetarian because I only refuse to eat things that have a central nervous system. I don't eat fish or meat, but I do eat clams and jellyfish, and I make use of sponge.
The only exception is escargot - I eat them even though they have a central nervous system, for the reason that they were introduced to the CA ecosystem by the French to serve as a food source for humans, and have now become enormously destructive agricultural pests that have to be killed off anyway. Interestingly, as with pheasants and peacocks, other creatures not native to CA, the effect of escargot on the indigenous ecology appears to be nominal; they are only a threat to human agriculture.
Incidentally, I wonder what the Native Americans would have learned to do with escargot if they had retained control of the land after the French introduced the creatures. Garlic and olives are not native to CA, but mustard, blackberries and acorns are...
Although as a matter of practice I do not eat any meat other than jellyfish, clams and escargot, I don't have an ethical problem with fully free-range meat and fish. I believe ruminants and fish exist to be eaten (by sharks and wolves if not humans). This is manifest in their psychology and behavior. I believe the best way to protect and ensure a positive quality of life for the creatures is the establishment of a sustainable symbiosis - this is something the French do very well in their own country.
This is also why McDonalds is disgusting and buffalo should be reintroduced to the West.