Dvergar wrote:
Some of these people have been told their entire lives they're degenerates and they should be ashamed of what they were. We're in the beginning of an age where people can finally be open about who they are without the guilt and (as much) fear of being ostracized and beaten.
For the most part it's not that people define themselves as one thing, it's that society defines them by their differences. If you had conversations with someone over a month and they brought up how they liked baseball or a specific team a couple times you wouldn't think twice. If they brought up how they feel they were born the opposite gender a couple times you'd have an issue and label them. You are taking that single label and you are seeing them as that one thing.
It is the nature of these boards that every topic descends into political bullshit but we didn't even go one post without someone complaining that they feel inferior because someone else was brutally attacked. It is both telling and disappointing.
When you say "political", what you really mean is, "a matter of personal opinions some of us refuse to analyze or change".
Self-righteous is not the same as righteous. You want to frame this discussion or any other in terms of "history" or "differences" or how good and evil are themes in progress through dialogue through history. But you're quite out of place characterizing yourself as one of the "good guys" of history.
No evil ever came from someone expressing an opinion in peaceful discussion. Quite a bit of evil - ignorance, superstition, bigotry - came from people who yelled "EEEEEEK HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT", whenever someone expressed an opinion too novel but also too compelling for them to handle, so they try to shut down discussion with self-righteous outbursts rather than subject the status quo to critical analysis.
And that's what you're doing. Whether you think you're right or wrong, or whether you even are, isn't the last word. The fact that you just can't handle discussing some things without descending to the level of "BUT HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT EEEEEK" puts you pretty well into the historical category that includes people who couldn't handle debate over a theory that the world is more than six thousand years old.
You want to talk about the history books - don't underestimate the mistruths backed up by self-righteous outrage.
Dvergar wrote:
Ya know what's real fucking pathetic about this? Someone gets beat so badly they get a seizure and your first step is to turn it into a political issue.
Violence is politics by other means.
