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I think the people who are more racist are the ones who think minorities can't get by without affirmative action.

stop babying them, and they will be good enough at what they do to get by on their own merits, not your fucking handouts.

No one said minorities can't get by without affirmative action.

You didn't address a single thing from my earlier post.

Dvergar /
Quisling

The President is going to be going for a second term in office so he hasn't already won - he just started campaigning! People aren't trusting of his secrecy in matters which, in my opinion, are trivial from all fronts; when a person can't be trusted that's an issue... and if there is a portion of the country that doesn't trust him for some reason then that reason is a legitimate concern. Remember, we're not talking about 5 people... according to Mayo, we're talking about 25% of the country (which is really 25% of the people polled, but he doesn't know the difference). The effort it'd take to have the POTUS order a subordinate to start the process to release documents X, Y, and Z is minimal I'm sure. Remember at one point the Birth Certificate (long form) wasn't available but miraculously it appeared when it was politically expedient? The same thing could happen with his other records his public is asking for.


Perhaps. The grades you or I get in college is indicative of our ability to an employeer, is it not? Also, I remember people dogging on both Bush and McCain for their lack-luster performance in school. I think it's racist that we can criticize the white guys to no end, oh but hell naw we can't criticize no black guys. Dat racist.


USDK has repeatedly said he disagreed with the Presidents politics and that he is not a racist... yet now you're going to call him one? Isn't that feeding the pointless shit?

Oh, and for racism... Blacks (specifically black women) saw an up-tick in reported votes, to which the voting black and minority communities overwhelmingly voted for Obama. Are they all racists because they didn't vote for the white guy?

Criticizing someone's academic performance and implying that someone only got where they are today because they're a minority are different animals.

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Maybe, but be honest, all other things being equal, Obama would not have won the Presidency if he wasn't black. You might not like the implication that he's only where he's at because of his race, but leaving aside any speculative bullshit about his college years, there's a lot of truth to that when it comes down to his election.

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Obama will not win his re-election without the independents. He may not be able to convince the right, but he damned sure better do what he can to convince the independents. If they have a problem with Obama's records, he'll tell them everything they ask so he can stay in.



He has to get re-elected. Just because we elected an idiot once doesn't mean we have to elect him again or even play nice. Bush was a bad student at Yale his entire two terms as President, don't expect the other side to be any nicer to Obama than the left was to Bush.



What exactly is racist? I disagree with a person's politics. Just because they're black doesn't mean I'm racist. Would be nice if you could muster up some defense for Obama other than the fact that people disagreeing with him are a bunch of redneck crossburning racists.




If that's true, get rid of AA altogether.



I didn't because i was drunk and wanted to voice an opinion rather than go through bullet points. Hope this meets with your approval!

Obama will do fine, considering the Republican party is a massive clusterfuck at the moment and absolutely love shooting themselves in the foot.

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While the republicans are shooting themselves in the foot about as hard as i've seen in my life, I still think obama can't win without the Ind's. The right isn't shooting themselves so hard they're going to help vote obama back in.

I agree that it's insulting to minorities to imply that Affirmative Action is needed, as well as insulting to most white people.

Companies that would hire a less qualified white person over a more qualified minority will only get what's coming to them anyway. Natural selection in the business world.

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Which is why the birth certificate was released, the crazies wouldn't stop talking about an issue proven false (by the short form) 3 years ago and instead of doing a modicum of research people just started to believe it. If he did everything some fringe group asked the administration would never be able to do anything (which is the point)



Wow, you're really out of touch. Did all that rage at our new black president just kind of cloud over your memory? 8 years of a disastrous bush administration, a weak gop candidate with a whack-job unpopular vp candidate, and you think it was because he was black?

Dvergar /
Quisling

odd, i thought rats didn't cling to a sinking ship.

did you not hear the distress call of "May Day"?

You're only looking at the race between obama and mccain. what jubbs is saying is that obama wouldn't have made it past the primaries.

the republican party was doomed in this last presidential election either way, so the argument obviously refers to the democratic candidate and who would be the one they backed.


EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQSv2WhRuds

if you can get past the parts where palin is interviewed specifically for that film and pay attention to the early part where its hillary vs obama, its pretty interesting. the rest of it is meh.

That is equally ridiculous, keep trying.

Dvergar /
Quisling

How so? Hillary Clinton was the odds on favorite over a no-name from chicago.