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 Post subject: Re: Police State or Stupid College Kids?
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 9:53 am  
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Azelma wrote:
The students were obviously being dumb and not listening to cop warnings and then throwing shit at them, which is a no-no.


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The cops were probably too aggressive in macing people/etc.


With the exception of chasing people down, what was too aggressive? The people that got maced were the people who were standing out on the street. The cops were outnumbered by a significant margin, they couldn't try to arrest every person there. Loudspeakers and lights were met with beer bottles. The cops were in the right, and their response was well within acceptable practices (aside from the things mentioned earlier).


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 Post subject: Re: Police State or Stupid College Kids?
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 11:09 am  
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The cops were probably too aggressive in macing people/etc.


With the exception of chasing people down, what was too aggressive?


Lol, you can't claim my statement is false by saying that the very thing which proves it is merely an exception. Chasing people down/macing/beating on them was too aggressive.

The students were dumb for not clearing out of the street immediately. They didn't have an official permit for a block party or anything so they shouldn't have been in the street.

Both parties are at fault here.


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 Post subject: Re: Police State or Stupid College Kids?
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 11:16 am  
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I didn't read anything about the police chasing students down and beating them... anyone got a story for me to ready?
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 Post subject: Re: Police State or Stupid College Kids?
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 11:32 am  
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Eturnalshift wrote:
I didn't read anything about the police chasing students down and beating them... anyone got a story for me to ready?



Thank god for police.

http://www.thelantern.com/mobile/campus ... -1.2227738


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 Post subject: Re: Police State or Stupid College Kids?
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 11:38 am  
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thegodslayer wrote:
Eturnalshift wrote:
I didn't read anything about the police chasing students down and beating them... anyone got a story for me to ready?



Thank god for police.

http://www.thelantern.com/mobile/campus ... -1.2227738


I'm siding with the cops if that article is accurate.


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 Post subject: Re: Police State or Stupid College Kids?
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 11:40 am  
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I'd agree it is both parties fault.

Police used excessive force (see link above post)

Kids should have GTFO when they saw that Police Truck rolling through.

Although asking drunk people to do anything quickly.......be serious.

I put the police more at fault, but hey who am I to tell them how to do their job. At least they didn't handcuff a 9 year old or taser a teen again. Baseball is srs business mmmmkayyyyy

Arbitrarily spraying pepper spray into the crowd to speed up the process of people leaving......no way not excessive there. Good Job Officers.


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 Post subject: Re: Police State or Stupid College Kids?
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 11:50 am  
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Although asking drunk people to do anything quickly.......be serious.

It's not the cops fault that 1000 kids decided to violate open container or public intoxication laws. :P
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 Post subject: Re: Police State or Stupid College Kids?
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 12:33 pm  
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Open container/public intoxication laws are retarded. Randomly spraying hundreds of people with pepper spray is not a judicious application of force. The only thing about this I approve of so far is that the idiots that took a swing at cops got their asses beat.

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 Post subject: Re: Police State or Stupid College Kids?
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 12:54 pm  
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Eturnalshift wrote:
thegodslayer wrote:
Although asking drunk people to do anything quickly.......be serious.

It's not the cops fault that 1000 kids decided to violate open container or public intoxication laws. :P


1000 kids on their own block with permission to be there. Oh god don't expect a college kid to drink. Be fuckin serious, you can preach all you want. Plain and simple macing the crowd was idiotic and careless. Macing the assholes throwing beer cans at you is a different story, they weren't selective about it. They did a spray an pray to any and all even people clearly turning to leave as seen in the video.

Also that news site said a cruiser was in front of the police van and kids were jumping on it? Where is the cruiser? The video goes pretty far down the road.

Doesn't really matter what anyone says they will get away with it because they have a badge and are above the law right.


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 Post subject: Re: Police State or Stupid College Kids?
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 1:18 pm  
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thegodslayer wrote:
Eturnalshift wrote:
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Although asking drunk people to do anything quickly.......be serious.

It's not the cops fault that 1000 kids decided to violate open container or public intoxication laws. :P


1000 kids on their own block with permission to be there. Oh god don't expect a college kid to drink. Be fuckin serious, you can preach all you want.

Did they have permission for a block party by getting a permit or are we just assuming they did? Furthermore, does getting a permit or being a college student entitle them to somehow be above the laws? They were blocking the road. They were drunk in public. They were loud which is probably a violation of a noise ordinance. Some of the kids were dancing in front of the police van, throwing stuff at the officers and attempting to kick the vehicle. Hell, the article you linked said the police were responding to a disorderly crowd.

As for the cruiser... it tried to get through the mob (because it said attempt) but was unsuccessful. A minute later, other cruisers started blocking the road and the van led the way. I'm guessing the cruiser you're wondering about reversed from the mob and helped block off the road. You didn't see the cruisers because the vantage point of the camera man was looking away from the direction in which the van was coming. I'm thinking that we would've seen the cruisers if the camera man filmed more to his left.
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 Post subject: Re: Police State or Stupid College Kids?
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 2:29 pm  
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Eturnalshift wrote:
thegodslayer wrote:
Eturnalshift wrote:
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Although asking drunk people to do anything quickly.......be serious.

It's not the cops fault that 1000 kids decided to violate open container or public intoxication laws. :P


1000 kids on their own block with permission to be there. Oh god don't expect a college kid to drink. Be fuckin serious, you can preach all you want.

Did they have permission for a block party by getting a permit or are we just assuming they did? Furthermore, does getting a permit or being a college student entitle them to somehow be above the laws? They were blocking the road. They were drunk in public. They were loud which is probably a violation of a noise ordinance. Some of the kids were dancing in front of the police van, throwing stuff at the officers and attempting to kick the vehicle. Hell, the article you linked said the police were responding to a disorderly crowd.

As for the cruiser... it tried to get through the mob (because it said attempt) but was unsuccessful. A minute later, other cruisers started blocking the road and the van led the way. I'm guessing the cruiser you're wondering about reversed from the mob and helped block off the road. You didn't see the cruisers because the vantage point of the camera man was looking away from the direction in which the van was coming. I'm thinking that we would've seen the cruisers if the camera man filmed more to his left.



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 Post subject: Re: Police State or Stupid College Kids?
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The first, larger vehicle in the video seemed to be progressing through the crowd despite it being so large and "disorderly." I don't think that "we were dispersing them so we could get through" shit is gonna fly.


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 Post subject: Re: Police State or Stupid College Kids?
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 3:21 pm  
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Moral of the story,

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 Post subject: Re: Police State or Stupid College Kids?
PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 1:29 am  
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Being from Ohio and having experienced parties at OSU, all I'm gonna say is that they all deserved it.

Just imagine 1000 of these in one street:
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Oh sure there are plenty of normal people that go there, it is a huge school after all. But they aren't the ones that yell at you from their porch and call your asian friend a Jabberwocky.


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 Post subject: Re: Police State or Stupid College Kids?
PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 2:36 am  
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stupid college kids!

This happened a few weeks ago at the most popular bar near my school - I wasn't there tho :( I also missed the riots after we beat Duke last year too... ffffffffff



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