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 Post subject: Re: God is a capitalist?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:05 pm  
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I think the point he is trying to make, and failing miserably at, is that knowing exactly how to increase a web site's ranking in Google isn't a marketable skill and that "anyone can do it"

This is his overall goal of trying to paint me, in his mind, as nothing but a retard who somehow fell into a good job out of pure luck...while he, the brilliant Aestu, has been screwed over by outside factors.

He asked me to list what skills I have that would set me apart from all the other people looking for jobs, I believe my knowledge of search marketing is my greatest skill.


In his defense, he also doesn't know that I was able to get into Ohio State's first search marketing class when I was just a freshman (I had to personally write to the Dean, since it was a senior only class), and that I received an A+.

He also doesn't know that I have been to Google's New York City (Chelsea) offices and spoken with both their business side employees and even a few engineers about search. He doesn't know that I've built and sold multiple web sites by getting them to rank highly for competitive terms. He doesn't know how many Search Marketing/SEO books I have at home and that I've read all of them. He doesn't know what SEO conferences I've attended or which industry leaders I know personally.

He dismissed the fact that I had an internship at a large pharmaceutical company simply because of this experience, and that they followed my recommendations.

He dismisses the fact that instead of working for a large SEO firm working on client web sites...I took a job where I knew I could potentially get an ownership stake and work on sites that I own. Yes, I thought I would be happier working in a small business than being a corporate drone. I was right.




I don't say this to show off, but this is a clear example of Aestu's reality distortion field allowing him to convince himself that he still is much better than me, and I have no definable skills.

He has challenged me to present facts and "how to's" and assert my knowledge of the field. I have done so, and anyone other than Aestu should realize that....yes, I actually know what the fuck I'm talking about when it comes to this stuff.


All that and you can't stop arguing with an inconsequential fool with delusions of grandeur.

Also, now that you lay it all out it seems a bit more interesting. "I know how to game search engines" does sound like a less than interesting skill from that sentence alone. Not that I didn't think it was important to businesses, just didn't seem very interesting.


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 Post subject: Re: God is a capitalist?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:24 pm  
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Dvergar wrote:
Also, now that you lay it all out it seems a bit more interesting. "I know how to game search engines" does sound like a less than interesting skill from that sentence alone. Not that I didn't think it was important to businesses, just didn't seem very interesting.


Yes, it's a lot more than just gaming search engines. In fact, if you set out just to game search engines, you'd surely end up getting sites banned.

I feel fortunate I've been able to learn about this field since I was in high school and making my own crappy web sites (first web site I ever made was a web site about Cheetahs in 7th grade lol).

It's a constantly changing field...and really no one knows Google's algorithm perfectly (it's very tightly guarded, I had to surrender my phone and sign a million waivers when I visited their offices....white boards all over the place had crazy formulas that I couldn't even begin to understand), so search rankings could change and you'd have no idea why. However, if you follow best practices, keep up with times, and adjust on the fly, you can have success.

It's also an interesting, and awkward dance with Google. They both hate and love SEO's. They hate spammers and actively combat them, but they respect white hat SEO's and realize the SEO industry is here to stay. Matt Cutts is Google's chief SEO/search index guru, he loves to drop hints about algorithm changes, what Google looks for in a site etc.

At the end of the day, Google's goal is to rank the best web sites highest. To that end, SEO has shifted much more to a quality assurance angle, while also making sure the site is optimized for Google's search robots and has a powerful backlink profile.

There can be sweeping changes to algorithms, and it's what makes me lose sleep at night, knowing that Google could tweak something and destroy the ranking of a bunch of my sites. At the same time, I respect what they're trying to do. They released a huge update almost a year ago, the first "panda" update. It was designed to go after content farms (ehow, etc.). Luckily none of our sites were affected, but eHow got RAPED for having shit content and not being worth their rankings.

The next algorithm update is coming soon...who knows what it'll bring. :)


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 Post subject: Re: God is a capitalist?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:25 pm  
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Jubbergun wrote:
They aren't "dumb,"

Yes, they are.


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 Post subject: Re: God is a capitalist?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:51 pm  
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Mns wrote:
Jubbergun wrote:
They aren't "dumb,"

Yes, they are.


So are you too though.

We're all dumb in different ways. Hooray!


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 Post subject: Re: God is a capitalist?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:54 pm  
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Azelma wrote:
I think the point he is trying to make, and failing miserably at, is that knowing exactly how to increase a web site's ranking in Google isn't a marketable skill and that "anyone can do it"

This is his overall goal of trying to paint me, in his mind, as nothing but a retard who somehow fell into a good job out of pure luck...while he, the brilliant Aestu, has been screwed over by outside factors.

He asked me to list what skills I have that would set me apart from all the other people looking for jobs, I believe my knowledge of search marketing is my greatest skill.


In his defense, he also doesn't know that I was able to get into Ohio State's first search marketing class when I was just a freshman (I had to personally write to the Dean, since it was a senior only class), and that I received an A+.

He also doesn't know that I have been to Google's New York City (Chelsea) offices and spoken with both their business side employees and even a few engineers about search. He doesn't know that I've built and sold multiple web sites by getting them to rank highly for competitive terms. He doesn't know how many Search Marketing/SEO books I have at home and that I've read all of them. He doesn't know what SEO conferences I've attended or which industry leaders I know personally.

He dismissed the fact that I had an internship at a large pharmaceutical company simply because of this experience, and that they followed my recommendations.

He dismisses the fact that instead of working for a large SEO firm working on client web sites...I took a job where I knew I could potentially get an ownership stake and work on sites that I own. Yes, I thought I would be happier working in a small business than being a corporate drone. I was right.

I don't say this to show off, but this is a clear example of Aestu's reality distortion field allowing him to convince himself that he still is much better than me, and I have no definable skills.

He has challenged me to present facts and "how to's" and assert my knowledge of the field. I have done so, and anyone other than Aestu should realize that....yes, I actually know what the fuck I'm talking about when it comes to this stuff.


If it is as you say, then I'd say that's pretty legit.

Your wider opinions are still ignorant though.


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 Post subject: Re: God is a capitalist?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:10 pm  
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Aestu wrote:
If it is as you say, then I'd say that's pretty legit.

Your wider opinions are still ignorant though.


Fair enough.


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 Post subject: Re: God is a capitalist?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:16 pm  
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...must...stop...reading...dilbert...


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 Post subject: Re: God is a capitalist?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:39 pm  
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Oh thank god, you're necroing a couple of threads with dilbert comics.


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