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Oh I've been on that hook before. Don't worry, you'll learn. I did.

As much as I fucking hate the Gators, I'd really recommend UF over UCF. UCF is the biggest piece of shit school I've ever gone to.

UNF is great too, as is USF. But really fuck UCF.

s^ | Kay

That's rough man. I think first loves always are. I had an almost 5 year relationship that was up and down just like yours.

A couple thoughts and future warning's for you:

1.) She had a kid - while I think it's extremely noble that you didn't care....I feel like unwed teen moms should generally be avoided at all costs. Speaks to stupidity and self-esteem if a girl gets herself knocked up by some hick shitface baby daddy who disappears.
2.) The ex boyfriend stuff - that would have bothered the hell out of me...and the whole topless picture thing...I dunno man....females lie. I'm surprised you took her word for things.
3.) She obviously is pretty attractive, and derives a lot of her self worth from the attention of others. She has low self esteem and it makes her do crazy shit and makes her generally a terrible person to be in a relationship (IE: whore). You, being a gentlemen, were willing to put up with it out of love and loyalty. If you see low self esteem flags though - you should run...girls with crazy low self esteem might be good for a lay, but aren't relationship material. Can't trust them...their emotions and insecurities will make them hurt you.
4.) Her relationship with her family. My dad only told me one thing when it comes to women - never trust a woman who has a terrible relationship with a majority of her family. And be super cautious if she has a terrible relationship with her father. She will project this on you and it will manifest itself in all her failed relationships with men. I get we all have our family issues - but if there is a general dislike between multiple members of the family and her...and if she dislikes them...not good. Not good.

Bottom line, you came out on top. You're stronger, smarter, and better for it. You don't need some crazy bitch. You will meet someone who you can have a much healthier, loving relationship with. You will meet someone who won't be a leech for your affection, but will be a great compliment to you. You will meet someone who respects themselves and therefore will respect you.

Enjoy college man - who knows, you might even meet this future significant other there....and if not, enjoy being young and free.

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Agreed completely with everyone who has posted.
I especially think that what Azelma said is very insightful and accurate.

This woman is immature and has no discipline. She will inevitably get into a relationship with a man who beats her, because she does not have the strength to make it on her own nor to commit to a relationship based on mutual responsibility and mutual respect.

She plays games of calling you a stalker and demanding constant attention and drama-mongering because of her lack of discipline. She wants to satisfy her every whim, her ego must constantly be fed by attention, she wants every sort of hedonistic physical/chemical/sexual gratification there is, she wants whatever material thing she sees and the approval of every man. No restraint. That is what drives her behavior. A complete and total lack of self-discipline at the most basic level.

You have seen this. She desires emotional, financial and domestic support, but she cannot commit to the relationship nor respect what is necessary for you to make those sacrifices. You cannot reason with her, you cannot ask her nicely, you cannot allow her the freedom to make her own choices.

So what will eventually happen is, she will find herself under the control of someone who will remove those choices from her life by force.

Those who allow themselves to be slaves, deserve to be slaves.

There is no use in feeling sorry for someone who does not feel sufficiently sorry for themselves or anyone else to clean up their act. Leave her behind like the piece of refuse she is.

At most, perhaps you might try to have some sort of relationship with her son. I would recommend giving the boy books and leaving the door open for him to visit you etc. This would be risky, but at least it would not be entirely a lost cause. You would be a saint for doing this, in the sense that being a saint requires sacrifices and strength that are beyond the capacity of mortal men. This may or may not be for you.

I recommend forming a relationship with a first or second generation Asian girl. On a personal note, I notice they often find me extremely attractive, but they are typically not very approachable, especially since one usually sees them behind the counter. Any ideas?

Another option is black girls (they have amazing texture and do not have the outrageous entitlement of white girls), but again, I'm not sure how to go looking for one. I'm thinking about this food court in a slummy area where I often see them, but again, not sure how to go about approaching them.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

I'm just envisioning Aestu trying to court an inner city black girl. Talk about an ass kicking.

RETIRED.
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What, do you want me to argue with you? Do you want me to be offended or something?

Let's not make this about me.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

quoting for evidence.

The dad hasn't disappeared, I think he wen through the same thing I did except he sucks and also had the misfortune of having a kid with her. They have equal custody.


It bothered me a lot, even more so when she didn't return my calls. I have fairly good reasons for beliving her but at the same time, she could just of easily been lying. I made the decision that I thought was for the best.


She's actually not that attractive. She's actually rather homely looking (which I like). Maybe a 6. The rest is pretty accurate.



I consider her relationship with her family fairly good, her and her father are really good friends. I'm told that's not a good relationship so I don't really know. Wasn't like they hated her or anything, they just knew she was kind of crazy.


That being said, I'm not saying that you're wrong or that you misunderstood me but that perhaps I didn't make those things clear, hence giving you this info.

Everything else you said is pretty spot on though. Thanks.


@Aestu The kid is a girl and she's 2. I did lots for her and I don't think there's anything more I can do for her. I think it's best to just let it all go and if someday in the future she wants to know what happened to me or meet me then that's entirely up to her mom.

Appreciate everything you said though.

Never stick your dick in crazy.

The relationship with the father thing is absolutely true.

But you of all people must know it can be so good.

I think the key is, just make sure it's a crazy person you can completely control.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

It's never been worth it.

the fuck is wrong with Florida.

If destruction exists, we must destroy everything.
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That's rough man. You're not the asshole for this, honestly...you can't look back and try to second guess yourself. It's true that some people never change, it's also true that sometimes people just make genuinely horrible mistakes and learn from them. You tried to give her the benefit of the doubt. You tried several times. Just be careful that you are more guarded, without being jaded. Whenever you find yourself in a position for a new relationship, just keep the memory from this in your head, but don't let it drive you crazy with paranoia and accusations.

You seem like a genuinely good, levelheaded person. You're gonna be alright.

Brawlsack

Taking an extended hiatus from gaming

The fuck is right with Florida?