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Well, I used protection, got off, and had a pretty good time. So I'd say yes, yes I did.

I wasn't a shithead when I was younger.

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Exactly. Everyone matures differently, and if you weren't ready, you weren't. I was and I knew I was, and it seems Tuhl was as well.

You're really projecting on this one.

If only parents would parent, more children would be better able to make such decisions.

They changed their story and said nobody knew she was pregnant, including her. The mom says she did the girls laundry so she knew she was getting a period every month.

It's happened before. Thing is, the girl told police she knew she was pregnant but hid it when she was arrested. But then we're talking about a 14 year old under duress from police officers to confess to murder, so who fuckin knows?

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Though I remain a kid at heart, I'd say I knew exactly what I was getting into back then. I have exactly 0 regrets and exactly 0 negative things came about from it. Sure, not everyone is ready at 14, but I was and she was. Had been dating her for a while before we did it.

I wouldn't necessarily call sex an "adult" behavior.

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I would consider sex adult behavior. It has adult consequences. Just because you few were developed enough at 14 doesn't mean everyone else is.

I think it's true that if you're ready, you are "ready"...the problem is, I think most kids aren't ready emotionally/mentally for sex when they start having it. They think they're ready -- but it's mostly the noise of society, social pressure, etc. is egging them on.

Physical and mental readiness are two very different things, and I think Weena isn't projecting that or judging anyone...really just stating facts.

Think of how different you are from age 14 to age 16. How different are you from age 16 to 18? 18 to 21?

Now think of how different you were from 16 to 21?


No regrets...and anyone who has sex at 16 shouldn't be considered a slut or w/e...but most people just aren't emotionally mature enough for it.

Why did you have sex when you did? Did you want to in your heart of hearts? Did you think it would just feel amazing? Or did you do it because you wanted someone to love you, to need you? Did you do it in order to be closer to that person? Did you do it because all your friends had done it? Did you do it because you felt like you had to? Did you do it to "get it over with"?

The problem is, a 16 year old is much more likely to do it for the wrong reasons than the right ones. I stand by that statement.

Sex is just an act. I think that we as a society need to move away from this notion that somehow it's something bad or that you need to be specially prepared/trained/ready/whatever. There is no magic age, and whether or not youre ready is, in my opinion, strongly dependent on you education on the subject. This goes for most activities, such as swimming and driving and whatnot. Just as any act, there is a right way, a wrong way, a safe way, and an unsafe way.

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Sex is the human reproduction mechanism which happens to feel good.

I also don't believe Weena is passing judgment (in the traditional sense of the word) or making the argument that people should follow one set of guidelines as dictated by him. No. Not at all.

Sex is an adult behavior, by definition. It's reproduction.

Rather than encourage people to be abstinent until marriage (lol) or promote the idea that sex is bad or whatever, as a society we should be promoting the idea that it is special, but not as huge a deal as some institutions make it out to be.

I blame religion and the public school system, quite honestly.

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I blame poor parenting, bad individual choices, 'progressiveness', the idea that everyone is a victim, erosion of society/morals, multiculturalism and the age of the internet.

Agreed. I'm not saying it's "bad" -- not at all. I'm not saying teens shouldn't be having sex either. I'm not saying abstinence is the way to go.

At the same time, sex is not merely "an act." It's not like going to McDonalds and ordering a big mac, or choosing what sweater you want to wear for the day. It's much, much more than that.


It is the most intimate act two humans can share with one another. It is completely opening oneself. For women, it's the physical act of being penetrated....allowing a man to be inside of you. I reject the idea that it's just "no big deal" and should be treated as such. I think there are a multitude of emotions that are experienced during sex, and that soceity wants to cheapen it ("it's just sex, whatever") but that cheapening is learned, not innate.

I think people who only go around fucking...have emotionless sex ("no strings attached") do so far too often for the wrong reasons. They tell themselves "hey it's just physical" "hey we're just using each other's bodies"..."hey, I'm just having fun"....but it's hollow. I guarantee that sex in a committed, loving, relationship is better than it could ever be with a random stranger or someone whom you don't know whether he or she loves you or not.

I think people lie to themselves quite a bit...and anyone who likes to be promiscuous is most likely covering up other insecurities and emotional barriers. They sever the ties between emotion and sex because emotions are difficult and scary. But hey, if you lie to yourself and say "this is fun, I'm just making myself feel good" then I guess it makes it all better. Humans can get used to anything.


Now I know what some will say -- "hey biologically people were meant to just fuck" -- but humans and their emotions are much more complicated than that, and you know it. We aren't just primates fucking out of instinct.

All of this is why I believe some people are too young to be having sex, do it for the wrong reasons, and end up having many many regrets. Sexual maturity and emotional maturity are two very different things.

So strangling your newborn right after its birth. Adult action?

Those who have spoken on my behalf have pretty much nailed it on the head.

I'm speaking generally, there are probably cases where people are 'ready'. But just because many, or even most, can do something that has great risk (great in it's magnitude, not it's chance of happening), doesn't mean they should. Precautions being taken and working successfully doesn't negate this.

I observe younger people (my sisters, my friends in retrospect when they were younger, my nieces, nephews and cousins) and the difference in maturity and wisdom between 16 and 18 is noticeable. It's not a matter of being a "shithead" either. The older of my younger sisters was a great kid, but between 16 and 18 she grew out of things. Things that indicate, at least to me, someone who shouldn't be having sex.

I think our culture's cavalier attitude about sex is, well, too cavalier. I think many of us (probably most) having sex before 18 is a result of this. That is a different discussion though.

But, think what you want, it's really one of those things that's almost entirely opinion.

100% agree.

I guess my stance on the position stems from experience on both sides, that is, the "I'm just having fun" and "intimate/super special" sides. Sex with the girls here in Antigua is just that - sex. It's just for fun, and it's good. Sex with a gf, however, is a whole different story. I was 100% sure I was going to marry each one of my girlfriends (still planing on marrying my most recent ex), because I don't do the whole dating thing unless it's for the long haul. THAT sex, needless to say, is infinitely better than the "just for fun" sex.

But, as you said, it's almost entirely opinion.

PS sorry to venture off topic so much, I kinda lost interest in the original post

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Patently false. Sex is a biological behavior, which we're usually capable of around 11-12 (gender permitting). Is it a good idea at that age? Of course not. Is it possible? Entirely. "Adult behavior" is an arbitrary distinction, exactly the same way I was no more mature when I dinged 18 irl than I was the day before.

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