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You know, the thing is...

...even, and maybe especially, with you guys I argue with all the time...

I don't playing with other random people.

We should do shit together. Gay as that sounds (not homo "gay," lousy inter-personal relationship "gay.")

Your Pal,
Jubber

AKA "The Gun"
AKA "ROFeraL"

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I've tanked evry instance without cc. Stop being bad.

I've healed every instance. Don't try to keep everyone topped off.

I do 11-12k dps as ret in almost every situation.

Heroics stopped being hard after the first week.

Get your volcanic drakes you baddies. I've had mine almost a week now.

Then again paladins are op. I can tank lots of bosses without heals for a long time. Not all but a good chunk.

Next you'll be saying how easy Baron Ashbury is with no interrupts.

If destruction exists, we must destroy everything.
Shuruppak Yuratuhl
Slaad Shrpk Breizh

The majority of heroic encounters are pretty easy with or without the proper CC. I went through a heroic Stonecore yesterday, and the only foreseeable problems were that of CC. We had a DK, a warrior, and an elemental shaman on DPS. A pally was tanking. The only CC we had was, of course, the shaman, and even then we were only able to utilize him in the section before Ozruk.

And yet it wasn't hard. We wiped once because of a tank error on Slabhide. DPS wasn't even really that great. Both the DK and warrior were awful with most mechanics and the shaman was lackluster at best.

I stand by the fact that Cataclysm heroics are based on healing moreso than anything else. Sure, there are problems that arise from DPS and/or the tank on a multitude of fights in some of the harder heroics, but it seems as if the only people who should be complaining are healers. I myself have had no problems with most of the heroics, but there are "off" nights where I'll be tired or distracted. On those off nights, the DPS and tank are often relatively competent compared to your average players, but no matter what they do, it's because of me that we wipe.

With that said, yes, players are bad. But if you're in a group that's wiping, look at your healer first and foremost. If he's not doing his job (and I say he because there are, of course, no girls on the Internet) to the best of his ability, you'll know. Sure, you'll also notice the same thing with the DPS or tank, but the healer is the easiest to gauge.

To be fair he's mostly right. Heroics are only hard with bads. If people in your group have a brain it's not a problem.

Or with people who still need the gear from heroics. Run with a tank in 333 and tell me it's fun.

If destruction exists, we must destroy everything.
Shuruppak Yuratuhl
Slaad Shrpk Breizh

It's fun.

- Masochists Club for Getting Clubbed

You've got to start somewhere, but yes it's a given if you run with a tank/healer who is way undergeared it's going to be a pain but the 3-4 of us geared up together and did heroics as soon as we could. I imagine it'd be a lot easier with a geared tank but meh, still not that hard. Deff fun though

GET YOUR GNOME ON

It's still easy just takes a bit longer and maybe die once or twice.

But your point is valid, a good tank and/or healer makes it much easier.

EDIT: The only hard fights are the fights with instagib because people are stupid and get hit by easily dodged mechanics.

Ran my first heroic. It was Throne of Tides or w/e.

Wanted to die forever.

RETIRED.
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I think I'm going to have to look for a new guild because the game is proving too hard for 98% of my guild. That and PvP/PvE stuff never happens =/
Probabaly gquiting after I earn the last heroic dungeon achievement for them.

I'm starting to think the same way, really. Every time I run heroics with my guild, they get stuck on some stupid mechanic on an easy encounter. The second I go to another group, we down the same encounter without a problem.

dgry n necra 4 preziednet

Nechra, we should run heroics together some time, I'm the asshat that actually CC's as a DK and pulls constant aggro off the tank.

Engi-nerd

I hope Igy shows up at your house and beats the everloving shit out of you.

RETIRED.
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