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Pointing to people that pull the Goddard is not pulling a Goddard, no more than you saying anything about republicans incorrectly referencing socialism equates to you referencing socialism.

Income redistribution, like it or not, is associated with socialism/communism because it has been a hallmark of various institutions of those systems. Referring to one aspect of an entire system and labeling something as 'socialism' based off that is hyperbole...but it's no more so than, let's say, "fuck you got mine," or "republicans want old people to die," or "republicans want kids/poor people to starve." You can't swim in your hyperbole then complain when the other guys buy their own pool.

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Of course I can when I am correct and the other guy isn't. Not too hard to understand.

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hey hows that whole gitmo thing working out for you lefties?

what do you mean?

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I haven't seen a for sale sign on it yet.

When did fascism flip sides on the political spectrum?

Or are you one of those people that think that facism, communism, socialism, and Obamacare all mean the same thing and are interchangeable?

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Hundreds of potentially innocent people are still being held indefinitely with no charge.

Joke's on us for wanting to stop that, I guess.

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Jokes on you for thinking that any president actually will stop it.

Oh, you mean all republicans? Pretty sure thinking this is a requirement to be let into their group.

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I feel like it doesn't really matter who you vote for, the other hundreds if not thousands of politicians and lobbyists etc etc will tear down everything before it gets put up or after that president's term(s) anyway.

I doubt ill be voting next year.

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Thanks for making my point. The term Nazi is an American abbreviation of the German Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, which translates to 'National Socialist German Workers' Party.' Yes, I had to look up the German spelling, so in before 'nice google.'

Fascism differed in many ways from communism and socialism, but were similar in that the state controlled the means of production (though in fascism the ownership of the factories/properties were usually not seized by the party/government as it would have been in a socialist/communist system). Fascist governments were also similar to communist/socialist governments in that there was only one political party, dissenters and other nonconformists were jailed for activities/speech outside what the party/government considered mainstream, and they engaged in central planning.

I'm not entirely certain from where the idea that fascism is a right-wing ideology springs, but I can only guess it probably has something to with the fact that, most likely because of fascism's strong basis in national identity/nationalism and the relation of a people to their religion, fascism didn't embrace atheism, and likely enforced religion tenets in whole or part as a practice of the party/state. Regardless, fascist government generally had a great deal in common with socialist/communist regimes.

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I will say though, it literally means nothing if a fascist government has "socialist" in their name. Just like China is called "The People's Republic of China"

The name implies that the people have a lot of control over the government, when clearly that is not the case. It's just another form of propaganda.


I do agree with you though Jubber, that right-wing has been unfairly associated with fascism. It's neo-conservativeism, which is not the same thing.

Not entirely a bad thing, either.

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If we're going to classify things strictly by what they called themselves, I am now the Pope. Catholicism is over.

Just because the Nazi party has "socialist" in the name doesn't mean that they stuck to their campaign slogans for long. In fact, Hitler got democratically elected. Thus, Nazi Germany was a democracy (even though Hitler dissolved all other political parties).

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The left-wing has been associated with fascism, communism, and socialism (at least when the word "fascism" is dropped on right-wing political parties, it actually is on the same side of the spectrum), but I don't see anyone trying to argue that the USSR was a right-wing government (thereby making my ideas look less shitty as I dump an incredibly unpopular regime on the people that I coincidentally disagree with).

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