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 Post subject: Re: Society:Hey Domestic Abuse is Okay As Long As You Can Da
PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:02 am  
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 Post subject: Re: Society:Hey Domestic Abuse is Okay As Long As You Can Da
PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:29 pm  
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I realize that I'm late to the party, but after reading the conversation between Aestu and the escort, I have a couple of thoughts. First, am I the only one who could see Aestu completely falling for this woman who was so willing to fully engage him? I imagine that he selected one who was at least mildly attractive, but this had to be a bonus. Can you imagine the epic conversations these two might have about any subject with neither giving an inch? Secondly, I wondered why you intentionally derailed the date, Aestu. Was this conversation your actual goal, and not an actual date?

Lastly (and this is for everyone), what do you expect/need from a woman/man? Do you want an intellectual equal, or someone who adores you? Do you want a submissive, or someone who is willing to knock heads searching for a compromise? I just wonder if you can know it when you see it if you don't know what you're looking for.


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 Post subject: Re: Society:Hey Domestic Abuse is Okay As Long As You Can Da
PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:34 pm  
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Secondly, I wondered why you intentionally derailed the date, Aestu. Was this conversation your actual goal, and not an actual date?


I think it was twofold. I bet part of him was definitely turned off by her bitchyness, arrogance, and hypocrisy, so he legitimately decided against it. He was also probably wishy-washy about the whole idea since he didn't decide on doing it on his own...Zaryi suggested it. The other part of him, I think, wanted to seize the upper hand.....saying "I don't think we should meet up" is something she'd probably never had happen before (have a man reject her). You can see how she tries to gloss over it and be like "oh well you're creepy" Basically "you can't fire me, I quit."

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Lastly (and this is for everyone), what do you expect/need from a woman/man? Do you want an intellectual equal, or someone who adores you? Do you want a submissive, or someone who is willing to knock heads searching for a compromise? I just wonder if you can know it when you see it if you don't know what you're looking for.


Can't you meet an intellectual equal who adores you? Why does it have to be one or the other? I want both.

I want someone who will be submissive at times, and willing to knock heads searching for a compromise at others. Someone who is truly great at compromise knows when to give and when to push back. So again, I want both.


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 Post subject: Re: Society:Hey Domestic Abuse is Okay As Long As You Can Da
PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:53 pm  
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He was also probably wishy-washy about the whole idea since he didn't decide on doing it on his own...Zaryi suggested it.


You're missing the full context. The issue was this particular individual, not the idea itself.

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First, am I the only one who could see Aestu completely falling for this woman who was so willing to fully engage him?


If I'm "falling for this woman", then why was I totally uninterested in having a relationship of any sort, and walked away and never looked back?

Boredalt wrote:
I imagine that he selected one who was at least mildly attractive, but this had to be a bonus.


Incorrect assumption.

Boredalt wrote:
Can you imagine the epic conversations these two might have about any subject with neither giving an inch?


Most people are pretty set in their irrational and self-serving thinking. She's the rule and not the exception in that regards. She's no different than 99% of Americans of both genders these days.

She types in meticulous grammar but is clearly neither intelligent nor thoughtful, which are qualities I value in a legitimate relationship.

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Secondly, I wondered why you intentionally derailed the date, Aestu. Was this conversation your actual goal, and not an actual date?


I made my reasons clear. My reasons were rational and consistent with my words and actions.

If you refuse to believe me because you can see only the reflection of your own ways of thinking, then that's your prerogative.

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Lastly (and this is for everyone), what do you expect/need from a woman/man? Do you want an intellectual equal, or someone who adores you? Do you want a submissive, or someone who is willing to knock heads searching for a compromise? I just wonder if you can know it when you see it if you don't know what you're looking for.


Now there's a blanket statement.

Answer is, I want either sex, or something more.

If I just want sex, then I want someone straightforward, low on emo/maintenance, who has no difficulty expressing preferences and accommodating mine in turn, and of course with high libido.

If I want more, then I want someone who is highly intelligent, aggressive, thoughtful, principled, curious, fearless, and without social restraint. Unfortunately, very few women meet those criteria.

I honestly would not care whether she accepted her place as a submissive or an equal, so long as she adheres to all the terms of that role.

If you want to be submissive, don't second-guess me.
In turn, I'll carry the extra weight.

If you want to be an equal, I expect you to bring your own initiative.
In turn, I will respect you and your prerogatives as I would my own.

Unfortunately, most women want it both ways.

I am wise and experienced enough to know that love is pretty much arbitrary. If you put a hen and a rooster in the same coop, you're going to wind up with eggs. Same is true with people, by design. If the two are reasonably compatible, "love" is irrelevant.

I don't care about being adored. I am by nature a cold person and find mushiness awkward. I only want trust, respect, and emotional intimacy. Basically, I want the girl to stand there and keep talking while I use the toilet, and vice versa. Metaphorically speaking. Mostly. Actually I don't mind admitting that one of my more bizarre fetishes is small talk during sex.

And let's be honest. I wouldn't date a girl in a wheelchair. By the same token, why would a girl date me when there's a zillion morons out there willing to play their stupid hypocritical games? I don't care to compete, and I'm not going to.


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 Post subject: Society:Hey Domestic Abuse is Okay As Long As You Can Dance
PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:25 pm  
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...slow clap.

Aestu pretty much nailed it.

How often do I, or anyone here for that matter agree damn near word for word with him?

Women are the walking talking poster child for double standards. Before you accuse me of women-bashing, that is not at all what this is.

I believe it is hard wired into the female psyche to be naturally inclined to be more submissive and helpless due to our origins in prehistoric times.

Men killed shit, women cooked it. Women were helpless without the male hunters.

Those days are over, but the traits remain.


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That last line I'm 100% in agreement with in aestu's post.

Not because I'm not competitive, but women who play that bullshit aren't worth competing for.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:35 pm  
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Aestu wrote:
If I'm "falling for this woman", then why was I totally uninterested in having a relationship of any sort, and walked away and never looked back?


I didn't think you were falling for her specifically, but I can just imagine you having some sort of intense back and forth like this as a sort of foreplay before fucking like wild beasts.


Incorrect assumption.

What are you saying about her looks?


Aestu wrote:
If I want more, then I want someone who is highly intelligent, aggressive, thoughtful, principled, curious, fearless, and without social restraint. Unfortunately, very few women meet those criteria.

I only want trust, respect, and emotional intimacy. Basically, I want the girl to stand there and keep talking while I use the toilet, and vice versa. Metaphorically speaking.


Sounds good. She's out there.


Aestu wrote:
And let's be honest. I wouldn't date a girl in a wheelchair. By the same token, why would a girl date me when there's a zillion morons out there willing to play their stupid hypocritical games? I don't care to compete, and I'm not going to.


Is a woman with the qualities you described playing "stupid hypocritical games"? I don't think she is, but it's easier to blame the women and their games than to look in the mirror, and ask, "Why do I feel inferior to other men?" or "Why don't I deserve a woman, like her?" Now, if you don't need a woman like this in your life to be happy, then none of this matters.

I'll tell you what really gets most of you guys: A pretty, sweet-smelling woman can lean up against you, and all that conniving, double-standard, hypocritical stuff you've been railing about goes out the window, and soon, you're unstopping her toilet and/or fixing her router. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Society:Hey Domestic Abuse is Okay As Long As You Can Da
PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:39 pm  
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I'd hit it.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:47 pm  
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Boredalt wrote:
I didn't think you were falling for her specifically, but I can just imagine you having some sort of intense back and forth like this as a sort of foreplay before fucking like wild beasts.


I don't deny that you're correct in principle, but I might as well try to get a boobjob from Kay or Fantastique. As opposed to Aestu.

Amongst my fetishes is the deadpan come-on. Typically male, but even more so given my personality.

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What are you saying about her looks?


Average at best.

Boredalt wrote:
Sounds good. She's out there.


So are extraterrestrial life and Cuban cigars.

Boredalt wrote:
Is a woman with the qualities you described playing "stupid hypocritical games"? I don't think she is, but it's easier to blame the women and their games than to look in the mirror, and ask, "Why do I feel inferior to other men?" or "Why don't I deserve a woman, like her?" Now, if you don't need a woman like this in your life to be happy, then none of this matters.


Begging the question.

My reasons reflect reality and make perfect sense. There is no man on this board who disagrees with me on this point. Given the incredible diversity of views we have on almost every issue, agreement on this point means that there is no possibility of fallacy.

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I'll tell you what really gets most of you guys: A pretty, sweet-smelling woman can lean up against you, and all that conniving, double-standard, hypocritical stuff you've been railing about goes out the window, and soon, you're unstopping her toilet and/or fixing her router. :lol:


Those kinds of women and men are not in short supply these days.

That said, Dooj, you may not be aware that while colored women certainly have their own charms, they typically don't have the extraordinary pungency of damp white women. Which is really the latter's main appeal.

But women aren't looking for handymen are they? And let's be honest...most men...including me...would do all that for free, just for the lulz. I know I have.

"I don't like you or care about you, but I'll fix your shit just to remind us both who's the better, and besides, I'm bored."


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 Post subject: Re: Society:Hey Domestic Abuse is Okay As Long As You Can Da
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Lastly (and this is for everyone), what do you expect/need from a woman/man?


I need them to leave in the morning.


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She's got a decent face. I'd have to see the rest of her body.


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Azelma wrote:
I'd hit it.


It's never ok to hit women :P
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Azelma wrote:
I'd hit it.


It's never ok to hit women :P


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Monotheist wrote:
Azelma wrote:
I'd hit it.


It's never ok to hit women :P


Unless you're a cop HIYOOOOOOOO

I'll stop now, I have criminal procedure on Tuesday and Thursday evenings so I'm always like this when I get home. For the record, the crack at USD was an obvious joke but I definitely expected the response it got, and I'm happy you were all good sports about it.


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