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You googled a list of like four people (I didn't really read it all) and then you posted two videos. Again, I'm saying it's horrible of you guys to say, "The Tea Party is shit because of these few people" because those few aren't representative of the whole. The Tea Party is more of a movement than the Occupy Wall Street guys and not one (or five) people speak for them all.

Cindy Sheehan, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Rachel Maddow, Keith Olberman, Micheal Moore, Cynthia McKinney, Fred Phelps, Bill Maher, Janeane Garofalo and a whole slew of others exist within the Progressive/Liberal groups. Does that mean these high-profile, out spoken, far-left fringe types are the best identifiers for the whole of the Left?

Technically it's stereotyping which is not the same as racism. And it was made in jest and not malice.

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Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

Here's how I feel about it: The Tea Party is shit because of all its people.

If destruction exists, we must destroy everything.
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Slaad Shrpk Breizh

Its easy. Have a (R) after your name instead of a (D). Facts are just for the liberal elite anyways.

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Liberals have a commanding knowledge of history.

Like Robert Byrd.

Your first sentence and your second fragment don't agree. Do you know what you're trying to say? Having a knowledge of history and being a racist are not mutually exclusive. Really, you're doing more harm to your side than the liberal's, since what Byrd fought against in his racist days are the same things the Tea Party is fighting against now (his filibuster of the Civil Rights Act for example).

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Im saying that both parties conveniently forget parts of history that make them look awful. He used to be in the KKK but everyone seemed able to forget that. Sorry but that's not a movement you can just walk away from without some kind of lasting stink.

I haven't seen any anti-bill of rights talks from the tea party though. Where is this?

Jubber, I fucking love you, but I think you'e mistaken.

The whole reason I'm not republican is because they seethe "me-centric"-ness. Being against welfare and healthcare, forcing their opinions of gays and abortions, and catering to the rich for no good reason? How is that not me-centric?

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The same could be said from the other side of the mirror.

"I can't afford things so you should pay more taxes to provide them for me"
"I can't afford healthcare so you should pay more taxes to provide them me"
"I live a lifestyle that you need to accept and support"
"I don't want to have a baby so I should be able to kill it if I want."
"I'm not rich so I'm going to blame the rich for my problems."

The wealthy have choice. Arguably the greatest attraction of wealth (this is definitely true for Jews) is not that it lets you buy things but that it gives you freedom and autonomy.

The American right likes to claim that welfare etc are liberal-driven programs but in reality they are conservative. Welfare is far cheaper, at least in the short run, and less threatening, than constructive government programs. The payoff, for the rich, is that they are free, at marginal expense, to do their own thing without fear of civil unrest.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

In b4 dvergar cites anti semetism in your post for stereotyping jews!

Brawlsack

Taking an extended hiatus from gaming

so apparently the democrats have been pursuing a conservative agenda for decades now.

and aestu, as usual, was the only person to spot it. good show old chap.

1) Nobody ever thought this ever, and if they do they are in the minority. What was that about attributing the traits of the few to that of the many? I guess it's only wrong when you do it to the Tea Party or some other conservative organization. In fact, I don't think those who benefit have the luxury of protesting/voicing their opinions because they're too busy worrying about their next meal, something that you and I never have ever had to worry about.

2) Fair is fair. Make more, pay more because you have benefited more. Taking more from the poor =/= fair no matter how you spin it. Sorry. Kinda.

3) Again, nobody has ever thought this ever. They would just like some help from their fellow Americans. What, is the GOP not the "patriotic" party anymore? Or does patriotic only mean war (bring it on, we're America!) and self (fuck you, got mine!)? If so, I guess you really are the patriotic party.

4) Nice choice of language, trying to make it sound evil. In this day and age, only the uneducated will fall for such tactics. Also, I guess it's okay for the gov't to choose what to do with a life (sup al-Awlaki?) as long as it is in line with your personal beliefs. Fact - it's your body, do what you want with it.

5) So long as the rich cause the problems (wall street) then their claims are valid. I'm sorry if it offends a demographic that puts conservatives in positions of power, I really am.



EDIT: IIRC, #4 contains a logical fallacy but the name of it escapes me atm. Something along the lines of using language that supports one side of an argument but presented in a seemingly neutral fashion. Help me out here Aestu?

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Red herring fallacy; abortion is not murder because a fetus is not sentient; therefore a comparison as such is invalid.

Then again I personally believe infanticide should be legal.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.