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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 5:00 pm  
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Yuratuhl wrote:
The people who bitch the most about how they hate WoW are the ones who played it for 5 years straight and gave it more time than they would a job.


Disagree. Aestu has made very good points regarding WoW and the laziness their development team has made par for the course.

When Vanilla launched, WoWs PvE storyline was well polished and flowed well. The game was more expansive with less zones, bgs and instances. PvP was very rock paper scissors and I recognize not everyone thinks this is a good model. PvE class mechanics were somewhat fail. If you were X class you tanked, Y class you are dps and that's the end of it. I didn't like that aspect. Vanilla gear was fun as fuck. Thekal / Arlokk's Grasp, Benediction / Anathema, Rhok'delar, Parachute Cloak, Edgemaster's Handguards. I just honestly love the unconventional itemization where not everyone had identical gear and stats. The wonky randomness of the gear made it fun as well. I love that Edgemaster's Handguards were so good even at 60 if you were low on hit, despite the item level.

Now itemization is piss easy. Hit X cap, then Y cap and then stack strength until you have X AP and then balance Haste / Mastery. Or some other variant. Everyone knows they can just generalize the stats their class and spec uses to an extent. The guesswork is gone. It's all done for them. 2h Fury Warrior with Nightfall has the job of buffing the raid. It's understood and accepted that his personal dps will suffer, but the gain outweighs the loss. Same goes for Shadow Priests with their Shadow Weaving debuff. You hardly see this kind of thing post TBC.

TBC I think is generally agreed upon to be the best period of time WoW had to offer, for all it's imperfections.


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 Post subject: Re: wow trial
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 5:03 pm  
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Yuratuhl wrote:
The people who bitch the most about how they hate WoW are the ones who played it for 5 years straight and gave it more time than they would a job.


I played from 2007 to 2008 basically full time. Then from 2008 - 2009 I fell off quite a bit but still played relatively consistently. By 2010 I was down to super casual status...finally stopping completely shortly after Cata came out.

That said I still wasted many months of my life in the game that I'll never get back. But I had good times.


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 Post subject: Re: wow trial
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:38 pm  
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Yuratuhl wrote:
The people who bitch the most about how they hate WoW are the ones who played it for 5 years straight and gave it more time than they would a job.


What's your point?


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 Post subject: Re: wow trial
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I for one have no regrets. And perverse as it sounds, I do truly believe that playing WoW made me a better person.


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 Post subject: Re: wow trial
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Aestu wrote:
I for one have no regrets. And perverse as it sounds, I do truly believe that playing WoW made me a better person.

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 Post subject: Re: wow trial
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Aestu wrote:
I for one have no regrets. And perverse as it sounds, I do truly believe that playing WoW made me a better person.


I wouldn't say I have zero regrets, very few, yes. I'm glad I've met and interacted with some of the people I have. We are all completely different people, yet I feel I relate to you guys more than I relate to coworkers or friends that don't / have never played. Whatever it is, we all have some sort of bond..and I honestly think it goes beyond simply playing the same game.


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 Post subject: Re: wow trial
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Battletard wrote:
I wouldn't say I have zero regrets, very few, yes. I'm glad I've met and interacted with some of the people I have. We are all completely different people, yet I feel I relate to you guys more than I relate to coworkers or friends that don't / have never played. Whatever it is, we all have some sort of bond..and I honestly think it goes beyond simply playing the same game.


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 Post subject: Re: wow trial
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 Post subject: Re: wow trial
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Aestu wrote:
Battletard wrote:
I wouldn't say I have zero regrets, very few, yes. I'm glad I've met and interacted with some of the people I have. We are all completely different people, yet I feel I relate to you guys more than I relate to coworkers or friends that don't / have never played. Whatever it is, we all have some sort of bond..and I honestly think it goes beyond simply playing the same game.


"The beast at Tanagra. Darmok and Jalad."


I googled, and though I'm not familiar entirely with Star Trek or this reference, I am able to surmise the intent of you quoting this. Ironically, your use of this phrase is a direct parallel to the way it was used in Star Trek. Well fuckin' played.


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 Post subject: Re: wow trial
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:34 pm  
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Aestu wrote:
Yuratuhl wrote:
The people who bitch the most about how they hate WoW are the ones who played it for 5 years straight and gave it more time than they would a job.


What's your point?


I don't have a point. I just like pointing this out.

As with you, I regret nothing.


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 Post subject: Re: wow trial
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:16 pm  
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Yuratuhl wrote:
I regret nothing.


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 Post subject: Re: wow trial
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I remember that, Josh and Nanas threatened to quit and we told them to quit being retarded :P
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 Post subject: Re: wow trial
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:50 am  
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Aestu wrote:
Battletard wrote:
I wouldn't say I have zero regrets, very few, yes. I'm glad I've met and interacted with some of the people I have. We are all completely different people, yet I feel I relate to you guys more than I relate to coworkers or friends that don't / have never played. Whatever it is, we all have some sort of bond..and I honestly think it goes beyond simply playing the same game.


"The beast at Tanagra. Darmok and Jalad."


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