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Aestu · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:56 pm

Usdk wrote:

So people who post here are brainwashed but people who post there are scholars and geniuses.

This is pretty much the intellectual equivalent of "I died to fire because I have a life".

Why did you die to that slow-ticking, non-moving fire?
b/c I have a life
In what way did your alleged having a life cause you to die to that fire?
b/c I don't play all day so I'm not as good as nerds who do
I have seen many players whom I know to have lives avoid that fire. Long hours of practice are not required.
No, I know I'm really good, so it must be that I have a life.
Clearly, you are not good, if you cannot avoid the fire.
I am good, I just have a life so I can't be as good as some loser who doesn't.
What's your standard for good?
Someone who can do stuff that's hard.
What's your standard for hard?
I've done [insert content here].
That content is not hard, proof being that a bot could do it. Clearly, the problem is your own misguided estimate of your skill. Once you understand that you are not skilled, you may begin correcting it.

Why don't you grasp these simple facts?
b/c I'm not a scholar
In what way does your not being a scholar make you unable to understand these things?
b/c I don't read all day so I'm not as informed as nerds who do
I have seen many ordinary people understand these things. Long hours of study are not required.
No, I know I'm really smart, so it must be that I'm not a scholar.
Clearly, you are not smart, if you cannot understand these things.
I am smart, I'm just not a scholar, so I can't be as informed as some know-it-all.
What's your standard for smart?
Someone who knows stuff.
What's your standard for stuff?
I understand [insert content here].
That content is not relevant, proof being that a child could understand it. Clearly, the problem is your own misguided estimate of your knowledge. Once you understand that you are not knowledgeable, you may begin correcting it.

Usdk · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:35 pm

No, its the purest example of an inferiority complex. Random internet posters are not more or less credible when talking about America just because they post on the BBC website. Careful you don't scuff your knees in your hurry to fellate anything British.

Aestu · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:45 pm

Usdk wrote:

No, its the purest example of an inferiority complex.

Whose? Inferior to whom?

Usdk wrote:

Random internet posters are not more or less credible when talking about America just because they post on the BBC website. Careful you don't scuff your knees in your hurry to fellate anything British.

I don't think highly of the British at all. What makes you think I do?

I don't think highly of their turgid society or insipid, fictionalized historiography or their disgusting food. Pretty much the only thing British I like is Monty Python.

BBC posters and columnists aren't more credible because they post on the BBC, they're more credible because they have no stake in American politics or social problems and therefore offer a balanced, impartial third-party point of view.

You and I have the perspective and wisdom to understand that the bullshit that goes on between the Palestinians and Israelis, or the Sunni and Shiite, or the tribes in Afghanistan, are stupid, but if you ask those people they'll go on and on about why they can't just adopt common-sense solutions and get along. Same thing - our perspective is informed and impartial; theirs is ignorant and caught up in their own BS.

That other cultures don't have their problems because they make better choices is as lost on Afghans as it is Americans. There is absolutely no difference. Or is there?

Usdk · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:03 pm

I agree to the extent that they are not emotionally involved in American politics and that they haven't been blasted with the polarizing mass media like we have. Its why its easier for everyone to give relationship advice rather than take it. But all that means is that they can remain aloof and be immune to the consequences, so they have less of a stake in the outcomes than we do. It doesn't make them more capable of finding the right path, it just makes it easier for them to come to a final answer because really, what's the worst that could happen if they're wrong?

Azelma · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:08 pm

Aestu's just mad about the British because Charles Dickens wrote the character Fagin as a dirty greedy jew.

Aestu · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:09 pm

Usdk wrote:

theyhaven't been blasted with the polarizing mass media like we have...It doesn't make them more capable of finding the right path

It absolutely does. EU people don't live in the best of all worlds either, or have the answers to all problems, but they certainly do live in a better one than we do, and they don't believe things that many Americans do that are provably untrue.

Aestu · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:15 pm

Azelma wrote:

Aestu's just mad about the British because Charles Dickens wrote the character Fagin as a dirty greedy jew.

I know you're kidding, but it's worth pointing out that Dickens later apologized to the Jews, and Fagin isn't portrayed as completely evil.

4:50

The point of Fagin's character is that he was, like many Jews, forced to make a living where he could, and that he provides these urchins with at least some joy and stability in their lives. Both he and the boys are driven to their paths in life by the faults of British society.

Britain, unlike France and Germany, did not go through revolutions in the 19th and 20th century, and these problems still persist to this day. England is arguably closer to the US than the EU.

Fantastique · **Posted:** Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:22 pm

In what way are those BBC comments incorrect? Simple question. I love this country, but I'm not dumb enough to believe we do everything right, or that the way we do things is better than any other country.

Aestu · **Posted:** Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:35 pm

Fantastique wrote:

I love this country

Fantastique · **Posted:** Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:10 am

Btw, I got your package. Thanks so much! The slices were divine and I will be starting on the books tonight.

kk carry on

Azelma · **Posted:** Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:54 am

Aestu wrote:

The point of Fagin's character is that he was, like many Jews, forced to make a living where he could, and that he provides these urchins with at least some joy and stability in their lives. Both he and the boys are driven to their paths in life by the faults of British society.

Britain, unlike France and Germany, did not go through revolutions in the 19th and 20th century, and these problems still persist to this day. England is arguably closer to the US than the EU.

Good point...where as Bill Sykes is clearly an evil character, Fagin is more ambiguous and somewhat tragic (though not as tragic as Nancy), and clearly a product of the ills in British society.

My first exposure to Fagin was in the 1968 musical. My mother did many things wrong, but exposing me to good musicals/books was something she did right.

"Shut up and drink your gin!" -- love that.

Fantastique · **Posted:** Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:37 pm

Mark Levin's exact words just now:

Mark Levin wrote:

Of course those who need health care have pre-existing conditions, that's why they need health care.

Oh man, I LOVE conservative radio! You guys are such loons that it's entertaining! I will say though that I started listening because Rush challenged me to do so for 6 weeks in order to "truly" understand conservatives. I guess he was hoping to indoctrinate people? But anyway, it did help me truly understand you goobers

Eturnalshift · **Posted:** Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:12 pm

I like Mark Levin. He's a very smart man who has done a lot in his life... many times smarter than the collective intelligence of all of us here. As a lawyer it's always interesting to get his legal and/or constitutional opinion on issues. While he may have said what he said, and I don't doubt that he did, I don't think a three-second sound bit is fair. Remember, very smart people have said some silly things before... like that guy who visited all 57 states.

If you're looking for other personalities to check out, try Tom Sullivan out of Sacramento. He's a fiscal conservative that is on the Fox News Radio station on XM Radio. I'm not sure if he's syndicated elsewhere. Anyways, he's a very smart 'money guy' and he seems to attract a lot of doctors to his radio program. I'm not sure if Levin get's that group of callers, but Sullivan can have pretty intelligent conversations with the doctors who may, or may not, agree with conservatism.

Rick Santelli is the guy who is credited for the 'Tea Party' revolution and you'll see him on CNBC a lot. He has a fairly conservative take on fiscal matters.

Another guy I like listening to is Bill Whittle. He's a conservative blogger that has a couple different video series' on Youtube... Firewall, Stratosphere Lounge and Afterburner. "Eat the Rich", the "What we believe" series, "The Vote Pump" and the "Voter's Guide to Republicans" are pretty enjoyable.

Aestu · **Posted:** Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:57 pm

I am qualified to say that Sacramentans are by and large stupid, ignorant and bigoted people. Anyone from Sacramento who realizes this (and there are others than me) "leaves and never looks back", or acknowledges the general community for what it is.

Being a doctor is no proof of sanity or integrity, and being a lawyer certainly isn't. Being on FOX is proof of either being a sellout or batshit insane. No one who believes in good faith what FOX or the so-called "conservatives" in this country claim to be true can possibly be intelligent, for the same reason no one who thinks the world is flat or libertarianism works can be intelligent. They are viewpoints inseparable from the fallacy and ignorance upon which they are based.

Weena · **Posted:** Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:16 am

Eturnalshift wrote:

I like Mark Levin. He's a very smart man who has done a lot in his life... many times smarter than the collective intelligence of all of us here. As a lawyer it's always interesting to get his legal and/or constitutional opinion on issues. While he may have said what he said, and I don't doubt that he did, I don't think a three-second sound bit is fair. Remember, very smart people have said some silly things before... like that guy who visited all 57 states.

If you're looking for other personalities to check out, try Tom Sullivan out of Sacramento. He's a fiscal conservative that is on the Fox News Radio station on XM Radio. I'm not sure if he's syndicated elsewhere. Anyways, he's a very smart 'money guy' and he seems to attract a lot of doctors to his radio program. I'm not sure if Levin get's that group of callers, but Sullivan can have pretty intelligent conversations with the doctors who may, or may not, agree with conservatism.

Rick Santelli is the guy who is credited for the 'Tea Party' revolution and you'll see him on CNBC a lot. He has a fairly conservative take on fiscal matters.

Another guy I like listening to is Bill Whittle. He's a conservative blogger that has a couple different video series' on Youtube... Firewall, Stratosphere Lounge and Afterburner. "Eat the Rich", the "What we believe" series, "The Vote Pump" and the "Voter's Guide to Republicans" are pretty enjoyable.

Jason Lewis

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