Dvergar wrote:
If you believe that a fetus is a living human, and that it is ok to kill said fetus, then you do support the killing of babies. You can dress is up like it's a choice issue, but at the end of the day there's still a pile of little arms and legs whether you call it pro-choice or pro-babykiller. Beyond that you are justifying it with "economics of not having a bunch of single parents who can't afford their children". So if you have an elderly relative you can't afford, you should be able to kill it just the same as killing a child you can't afford.
You're just using a straw man argument - usually a conservative tactic. We're not going to come to any sort of resolution with this line of discussion.
I think it
IS all about choice. I think the choice should be there (for all those reasons I've listed: economics, social, rape, incest, blah blah), but I also think people should do the right thing and choose to keep the child, or be smarter about birth control if they don't want, can't afford, or aren't ready for a child.
In an ideal world, there would be no need for abortions, because there wouldn't be unwanted pregnancies. I think
both sides can agree that we want to reduce unwanted pregnancies as much as possible.
However, unwanted pregnancies happen...and for all sorts of reasons people decide to abort the child. I would rather they have that option, then force them to care for a child that they hate, or get a back alley abortion.
For me personally though, if I were to make a child with someone...I would want to keep that child. I would do everything in my power to keep and raise it, and make it have the best life I could possibly provide. I think part of being human is the desire to procreate and help your offspring have a happy life. Personally, this is just a part of my moral code, and a decision I've made for myself. However, I can't enforce my moral code on the rest of society...but I sure as hell can judge them or view them negatively if they violate it.
I'll use my own straw-man that is a little less ridiculous. Think about smoking. We know smoking kills people, yet it is legal. I think it should remain legal. If people want to kill themselves and spend money on cigs when they could quit (with time and effort), then fine. I don't think the government should tell them they can't do that.
However, I would never personally smoke. I would never want to date someone who smokes. I would be pissed as hell if a loved one smoked. I do view people who smoke slightly negatively (wasting money, killing yourself, etc.) though.
Get it?