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 Post subject: @Joklem
PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:23 pm  
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Explain CEGEPs to me and tell me what (if anything) you know about the engineering programs at McGill University

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 Post subject: Re: @Joklem
PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:14 pm  
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You're going to McGill now?


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 Post subject: Re: @Joklem
PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:29 pm  
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I've been contemplating changing to a University for a while, and that's one I'm considering.


-shrug

edit: as of now though I'm more likely to finish my college program and get as many transfer credits as possible but still things to consider.


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 Post subject: Re: @Joklem
PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:45 pm  
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Quebec high school is 11 grades, cegep is between high school and university and is either a 2 year general program or a 3 year technical program. Most Engineering majors do some 2 year science program in cegep that is Cal 1, Cal 2, Linear, a bunch of chemistry and physics. You're expected to be done those before University or you have to take the pre-reqs at University. Pretty sure most undergrad degrees are 4 years in other provinces/states, in Quebec they're 3 because of cegep. Engineering is the only 4 year undergrad degree I can think of in Quebec.

McGill's Engineering program is nothing special but it's a recognized name so it looks good even if you're not in one of the fields that they are known for.
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 Post subject: Re: @Joklem
PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:47 pm  
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So, we're moving to Montreal now? Not Ottawa? D:

Make up your mind!


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 Post subject: Re: @Joklem
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My friend graduated from McGill! He loved it


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 Post subject: Re: @Joklem
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I have two friends who went to McGill. They didn't do programs in 3 years, but that was probably because they were coming from US high schools and were both in science programs.


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 Post subject: Re: @Joklem
PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:41 am  
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Harvard or GTFO.


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 Post subject: Re: @Joklem
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Quittermike nailed it. You don't need CEGEP if you're 21+ though (or maybe it's a bit higher now.

McGill especially has a pretty case-by-case admission process that looks at your whole history to determine whether or not you're good for it.

Oh and if you have a HS diploma from Ontario, where I think there's 12 grades, you should be able to get into McGill or Concordia or whatever with that, with optional or compulsive courses to catch up on shit you don't have from CEGEP. If it anything like physics, it just makes it a bit harder at the begining where you dive into integrals and differentials, you can get a tutor for that or something if they're optional, otherwise I'm pretty sure there can be a one year catch-up program thing. The admission comittee will let you know all about it -- you can apply online (concordia at least) and be contacted to be talked through it. Oh and since I know know, canadian students get the same tuition as native quebec ones - in other words, dirt cheap.
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 Post subject: Re: @Joklem
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Joklem wrote:
Oh and since I know know, canadian students get the same tuition as native quebec ones - in other words, dirt cheap.


on their website McGill has Quebec residents ~$3500/year tuition, and Canadian residents ~$7000/year, and then there's the international students WTF RIDICULOUS/year.

Quittermike wrote:
McGill's Engineering program is nothing special but it's a recognized name so it looks good even if you're not in one of the fields that they are known for.


Is this considering Canadian schools or the world's schools?


I should just go to waterloo but that city is so disgusting.

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So, we're moving to Montreal now? Not Ottawa? D:

Make up your mind!


Most unlikely, at this point (july) and starting next semester in september... I'm most likely trapped in Sudbury for another year at which point I might as well do my last year and then go to University with that degree.






Too much to think about


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 Post subject: Re: @Joklem
PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:04 am  
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Jushiro wrote:
Joklem wrote:
Oh and since I know know, canadian students get the same tuition as native quebec ones - in other words, dirt cheap.


on their website McGill has Quebec residents ~$3500/year tuition, and Canadian residents ~$7000/year, and then there's the international students WTF RIDICULOUS/year.

Quittermike wrote:
McGill's Engineering program is nothing special but it's a recognized name so it looks good even if you're not in one of the fields that they are known for.


Is this considering Canadian schools or the world's schools?


I should just go to waterloo but that city is so disgusting.

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So, we're moving to Montreal now? Not Ottawa? D:

Make up your mind!


Most unlikely, at this point (july) and starting next semester in september... I'm most likely trapped in Sudbury for another year at which point I might as well do my last year and then go to University with that degree.






Too much to think about


That's for undergrad? You'll be glad to know that your grad will be very cheap. (edit: master's is 7k too, meh)

Engineering involves a shitload of problem solving and things will change by the time you finish your degree most likely, though to a lesser extent than the sciences. Basically you work your ass off to develop skills to solve problems and find your own solutions to them as none yet exist. E.g. the mcgill dept. of physics isn't all that either (fucking string theory), but the profs are pretty good at making that the strong point of your edumacation. And the mcgill name won't hurt.

What type of engineering? Tbh if it's chemical, I'd do a B.Sc in org chemistry and engineer @ grad. The elaborate science during grad and later is probably so fucked up that it can't be explained in words yet, and developing the skills to make something out of conjecture or -nothing- to solve your own problems (that you probably invented!) will be very beneficial, and it's kinda fun once you get pleasure out of banging your head against your desk.

If it's indeed chemistry, you might also want to take a look at Concordia University. For your B.Sc, try to get all the physical chemistry and quantum chemistry, and I just looked -- intro to quantum theory, so on and so forth ASAP. First semester is good. Even if it's less involved in chemistry (in practice when you're working, in nature "that's how it works".), you really need to start hammering that shit in your head as soon as possible, and you'll have problems and questions haunting you probably for a few decades. (what in the fuck is spin?!)

Oh and Montreal is a great place to be gay in.
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 Post subject: Re: @Joklem
PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:26 am  
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I wonder if it would be worth it to live in Quebec for a year to become a resident to get cheaper tuition.

note: it wouldn't be like I'm doing nothing, you're allowed to take part time education for that year just not full time (12 credits/semester is considered part time there iirc)


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 Post subject: Re: @Joklem
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Joklem wrote:
What type of engineering?


Chemical, most likely. I've only ever liked chemistry and I ended up in chemical engineering technology because it's the only thing you can really take for chemistry at the college level.

Perhaps I should just go for a BSc focusing on chemistry? I don't know what I'm doing.


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 Post subject: Re: @Joklem
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Jushiro wrote:
Chemical, most likely. I've only ever liked chemistry and I ended up in chemical engineering technology because it's the only thing you can really take for chemistry at the college level.

Perhaps I should just go for a BSc focusing on chemistry? I don't know what I'm doing.

What are your goals for a career? Look into some potential employers and check job listings to see what type of degree those types of jobs require. If you can get a co-op placement while you're at school that's a good way to figure out what kind of work you enjoy. Also don't rush to get out of school - if you have to put in an extra year or even get an extra degree, it's probably worth spending more time now rather than finding out you're underqualified for interesting jobs later on.


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 Post subject: Re: @Joklem
PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:38 pm  
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Get a job at a place that makes explosives imo.

Engineer the shit out of some buildings!


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