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 Post subject: you think your job sucks?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:24 am  
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http://news.yahoo.com/couple-badly-injured-bodybuilder-attack-032149667.html

you weren't one of those 4 cops who had to wrestle a naked roid raging body builder to the jailhouse.


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 Post subject: Re: you think your job sucks?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:38 am  
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 Post subject: Re: you think your job sucks?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:54 am  
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rofl i hope he painted himself green.

dude what would your first thought be if some naked muscleman busted your door in and just started beating the shit out of you?

ITS SO VEINY


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 Post subject: Re: you think your job sucks?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:22 pm  
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1. 4 vs 1
2. They have armor
3. They can raise the stakes in application of force as high as they like
4. A lot of cops are on roids
5. You jump at any chance to make thugs look like heroes


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 Post subject: Re: you think your job sucks?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:28 pm  
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ITT: Aestu reaffirms his belief that all cops in the history of the world are evil.

Seriously, give it a rest...the hulkamaniac was naked on this couples front porch and beat the shit out of them...then it took a bunch of cops to take his roid-raged ass down.

From reading the article there is literally nothing to indicate that the cops did anything wrong or were acting like "thugs"


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 Post subject: Re: you think your job sucks?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:29 pm  
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Project much ethan?


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 Post subject: Re: you think your job sucks?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:54 pm  
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Usdk wrote:
Project much ethan?


"I heard Aestu say this, so it must be an effective retort!"
How is this projection?

Azelma wrote:
ITT: Aestu reaffirms his belief that all cops in the history of the world are evil.

Azelma wrote:
ITT: Aestu reaffirms his belief that all terrorists in the history of the world are evil.

Azelma wrote:
ITT: Aestu reaffirms his belief that all child molestors in the history of the world are evil.

Azelma wrote:
ITT: Aestu reaffirms his belief that all rapists in the history of the world are evil.


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Seriously, give it a rest...the hulkamaniac was naked on this couples front porch and beat the shit out of them...then it took a bunch of cops to take his roid-raged ass down.
From reading the article there is literally nothing to indicate that the cops did anything wrong or were acting like "thugs"


Actually, thinking about it more, there is a very good reason:

Why did the cops make a point of "wrestling" the guy down? The cops have tools for subduing adversaries in that sort of situation...tasers, bean bags, chemical agents, hell, even clubs. Why didn't they use one of the many tools they had at their disposal and instead decided to get into a brawl?

What this story is really about is cops who disregarded common sense and proper procedure and got themselves in a compromising situation then tried to spin it around and portray themselves as heroes instead of incompetent bullies. Then again, this also demonstrates another truth: cops ask for those kinds of toys because they like using them for everything but their intended purpose. If these people weren't in uniform, they'd be torturing small animals for fun.

Then again there are people like Usd and Azelma who think that clearly because the people who have every reason to lie said something on the internet, it must be true!

Also pointing out something else. Where do you think this guy gets his roids? Probably, at the local club, or something like that. Consider that a bouncer at the local club can't call for backup...he can't shoot someone because he feels like it...he doesn't have a union...he doesn't have a chest full of fun toys...yet he has to meet the same danger, mano y mano. He would have to deal with this same dude if he raged in public. You want to talk about a tough job, THAT'S a tough job.

Not that I have any love for bouncers. They're thugs too. Just saying, insofar as dealing with this guy could be a challenge, that's the sort of scenario which would qualify as one's job "sucking".


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 Post subject: Re: you think your job sucks?
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Why did the cops make a point of "wrestling" the guy down? The cops have tools for subduing adversaries in that sort of situation...tasers, bean bags, chemical agents, hell, even clubs. Why didn't they use one of the many tools they had at their disposal and instead decided to get into a brawl?


Hey Brainosaurus, next time try reading the article and you won't look like such a fool.

Well, maybe you won't look like as much of a fool. maybe.


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 Post subject: Re: you think your job sucks?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:05 pm  
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Hey Brainosaurus, next time try reading the article and you won't look like such a fool.

Well, maybe you won't look like as much of a fool. maybe.


Story doesn't make sense. A stun gun can incapacitate a bull. You can see videos on youtube if you don't believe me. And...four sets of handcuffs? Cuffs are made of high strength steel. He's not literally the Hulk. Never mind the other options I pointed out.

The fact the police claim the impossible corroborates my impression that the truth is they fucked up and lied about it.


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 Post subject: Re: you think your job sucks?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:10 pm  
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So, in the Aestu worldview:

all cops = terrorists = rapists = child molesters


I'm starting to think you were kicked out of the police academy for being a little bitch and now you're butthurt about it.


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 Post subject: Re: you think your job sucks?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:12 pm  
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its more so that the guy was so big and the links(I think its some form of hinges now) that connect the cuffs couldn't reach, so they had to connect a cuff to his wrist, to another handcuff, then to the other wrist.

or, they were worried this could happen:


So it's not impossible. Hi, you're wrong again. You don't know more than hundreds of years of police experience.

And its more like:

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ITT: Aestu reaffirms his belief that all threads are designed with his input in mind, and is welcomed with open arms into all topics about all things, especially the ones he's so good at beating like so many dead horses.


Or, you could just let us sit back and enjoy and amusing story about some guy hulking out naked and running around beating up random people like a shitty marvel comics copycat.


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 Post subject: Re: you think your job sucks?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:15 pm  
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Aestu wrote:
Story doesn't make sense. A stun gun can incapacitate a bull. You can see videos on youtube if you don't believe me.


Those same videos that show people still not surrendering after a single charge, and multiple guns being used because the barbs come loose.

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And...four sets of handcuffs? Cuffs are made of high strength steel. He's not literally the Hulk. Never mind the other options I pointed out.


Again not uncommon, they never said he broke through the cuffs. If the cops are attempting to subdue someone who is out of their mind on some for of drug (roids in this case, but more often pcp) and multiple officers are attempting to cuff the person, they will cuff one hand each and link the cuffs together. A 300 pound weightlifter is no small man, it would be much easier to use two and try to pull his arms together, the same with cuffing his ankles. Shackles would be in the trunk of the cruisers, better to get him detained as quick as possible, ems isn't able to help the people he attacked until he is under control.


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 Post subject: Re: you think your job sucks?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:19 pm  
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Usdk wrote:
its more so that the guy was so big and the links(I think its some form of hinges now) that connect the cuffs couldn't reach, so they had to connect a cuff to his wrist, to another handcuff, then to the other wrist.


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Again not uncommon, they never said he broke through the cuffs. If the cops are attempting to subdue someone who is out of their mind on some for of drug (roids in this case, but more often pcp) and multiple officers are attempting to cuff the person, they will cuff one hand each and link the cuffs together. A 300 pound weightlifter is no small man, it would be much easier to use two and try to pull his arms together, the same with cuffing his ankles. Shackles would be in the trunk of the cruisers, better to get him detained as quick as possible, ems isn't able to help the people he attacked until he is under control.


Oh. Ok. This is a big deal why?

Again, you're proving the cops lied. They spun it as a guy "Hulking Out" when the truth was the guy just had a really wide chest. Implying that what made the thing such a big deal in the first place was something else entirely.

Usdk wrote:
So it's not impossible.


The very fact you conflate a TV stunt show with real life is truly scary.

Usdk wrote:
Hi, you're wrong again. You don't know more than hundreds of years of police experience.


Whose experience?

Again: this is why you're a Nazi. "Anyone who says the self-appointed authorities are wrong is instantly evil and wrong, because if they say it's true, because they're in authority to tell us what's true and what's not. If you disagree with them it's because you're evil and wrong. If they have a problem with you it's because you're evil and wrong. That's why they wear the jackboots".

Usdk wrote:
Or, you could just let us sit back and enjoy and amusing story about some guy hulking out naked and running around beating up random people like a shitty marvel comics copycat.


What's amusing about it? Why don't you just watch videos of torture? It's the same thing, the strong taking advantage of the weak for their own amusement. What's the difference?


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 Post subject: Re: you think your job sucks?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:20 pm  
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hey dvergar o/


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Usdk wrote:
hey dvergar o/


"He's telling me I'm right making me feel good so I want to let him know he's making me feel good! Because feeling good about being wrong is more important than being right!"


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