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So I just read some article about a Judge ordering some chick to go back to Colombia after she spent most of her life here in America. She came over with her parents at age 4 and she's lived here since. Well, now everyone is pissed off about the judge sending her back since she's the valedictorian for her Miami high school and such an upstanding kid. She said she has a 6.7 GPA.

I've known people who have had well above a 4.0 GPA from taking mostly AP courses in HS (since they were weighted as 5.0 instead of 4.0) but I've never heard of this 6.7 GPA. I've grown up in the Virginia school system all my life so I don't know about the GPA scales of other states... I figured they were all the same.

4.0 is the highest i've ever seen, but i haven't been in high in a decade

Grade inflation is a serious issue in the U.S atm. Even in Virginia schools it is now +1.0 for AP and +.5 for Honors in many counties. a 7.0 scale would not surprise me. Schools are under constant pressure to make their students more appealing to colleges, and rather than fix the problems they have they choose simple fixes that they think will help their kids (like inflating the grades).

My 12 point scale beats everyone elses by default.

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Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

http://www2.tbo.com/news/education-news ... -ar-38778/


I saw this happening when my cousins were graduating.

Bunch of Turbonerds.


"Oh, you mean you almost doubled what was the max GPA of 4.0?"

You know, this really captures why people like this are useless.

These are people who have no concept of real challenge. People who have never truly tasted defeat or failure.

In the real world...not every problem has an answer...the tests of life, unlike the tests of a classroom, are not designed to be beaten. Quite the contrary. They are designed to not be beaten.

How many great people, who pushed our world forward, were people obsessed with arbitrary measures of achievement? On the other hand, how many were people who just did their own thing, took risks, made their own judgements?

You meet people in all walks of life whom you can tell are formidable, not to be trifled with, just by the look in their eyes, the way they carry themselves. Their gaze is steady and fixed. They stand straight and walk proudly. They are simple and straightforward. They tell the truth and lie with equal ease. They can't be bullied or ignored. In everything they say and do, you see a mortal seriousness.

I don't see that in her. I see a frivolous person, an untroubled smile.

I'm sure she'll become a reasonably successful organization person. But she might as well not even exist.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

Our Valedictorian had a 4.6 or something but that's because he loaded up on AP courses, attended governors school, etc... all of which carried a 5.0 as the highest weight. (That kid, and his brother, both got a 1600 on their SATs... fucking Asians) But what kind of classes are these kids taking that gives over 7 for the grade? The article you linked made it sound like there are 'other' ways to boost the GPA through weighted classes... are they actual college classes? Maybe points for extra-curricular activities? It doesn't matter too much since I'm not in HS and my son is 13 years away from there but I'm just super curious.

Seems pretty derptacular but I'm glad the colleges don't pay attention to all the fluff.

Aestu's Child Reading List

Block I - 3-8
Ant & Bee
If You Give A Mouse A Cookie...
Where The Wild Things Are
The Little Engine That Could
Madeline
Babar
The Little Yellow House (Burton)
The Cat In The Hat / Oh, The Things You'll See! / Green Eggs & Ham
Curious George

Block II - 8-10
In The Beginning: Creation Stories From Around The World / The Young Years: Best Loved Stories and Poems for Little Children (Parents Magazine Press) (I recommend these two books more strongly than all others)
The Arabian Nights (Holt, Reinhart & Winston Edition)
The Bible Story (Maxwell)
The Fools of Chelm / Zlateh the Goat & Other Stories / Herschel & The Hanukkah Goblins
King Arthur & the Knights of the Round Table
The Lorax
How Things Work

Block III - 10-12
The Phantom Tollbooth
The Mississippi Bubble
Mrs. Frisby & The Rats of NIMH
Ms. Piggle-Wiggle
The Great Brain
The Hoboken Chicken Emergency
The Golden Goblet
Trumpet of the Swan / Stuart Little
The Kid's Book of Chess (Harvey Kidder)

Block IV - 12-16
Interstellar Pig
The Giver
Around The World in Eighty Days / From the Earth to the Moon
War of the Worlds / The Time Machine
Plutarch's Roman Lives
Arrowsmith
The Epic of Gilgamesh
Things Fall Apart
Profiles In Courage

Block V - 16-18
Theogony
The Guns of August
The Killer Angels
Long the Imperial Way
Art of War / Tao Te Ching
The Peloponnesian War
Catch-22

My family believed that the best way to learn to write is to read abundantly, and that a child should read to his parents - not the other way around.

Math...I learned math on a combination of the Kumon and late 80s version of the Real Math systems, which are totally contrary in approach and complement each other well. Kumon is totally arithmatic, Real Math is semantic and demands abstract thinking.

I believe science should be taught to a boy very early on and focus on understanding how common everyday devices like radios, TVs and refrigerators work. Same with history; history should be taught by reading chapters from a general studies history book, meshed with stories and fables from individual cultures. I really recommend old science manuals from the 1950s coupled with books that show cross-sections of household appliances.

I believe that chess and mental math are fundamental life skills that should be taught early on. Children should also be introduced early to games of skill like Sorry! and Scrabble.

I believe that a boy's first teacher should be his father.

You may not like or even respect me, Eturnal, but I offer my advice in good faith believing it will make your son stronger and you will be proud of what comes of him. I firmly believe these are excellent methods to teach a boy, and you should at least consider this material. I believe that if you complement these methods with assertive parenting, your son will have the tools to defeat any opponent and overcome any obstacle.

idk, that was the general educational philosophy I was raised with and still firmly believe in. I believe in a general education designed to convey general understanding, fundamental skills, and mental infrastructure.

I think there's a real difference in philosophy there compared to how most people perceive education, as a fundamentally social/career-related concept.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

You forgot Fish Head and Rainbow Fish, dick.

In regards to the actual thread topic, what Mazel said.

As for the judge's ruling, I'm curious to read it. While I disagree with it for personal reasons, precedentially he's following the existing pattern; it's really hard not to get put in removal proceedings once ICE gets their hands on you. I'd like to know how she landed herself before an immigration judge in the first place though, because the way most people get found out when they're undocumented is either factory/business raids or when they're arrested (usually for an alleged crime, sometimes because of police zeal). If she's an upstanding A student and she's a high schooler (presumably a minor, idk there's no article linked), I'm not sure how her immigration status could have come to light.

As a practical matter, she'll probably be granted a stay of removal. What this means is ICE wins on the technical level and the judge gets to tell her she has to leave, but she'll never be removed from the country.

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I have never seen such a GPA, but as you guys have already stated, it's probably some fucked up, over-inflated system. Do not like. I don't think she should be deported though. Lord knows this country could use a few more smart people.




Yes. I firmly believe in this particular piece of advice. I had to do this when I was a child. I have no doubt that this task is what contributed the most to making my reading and writing skills superior to those of my peers for most of my life.

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Yea, I'm definitely going to make him read to us instead of us read to him... well, when he's old enough. He can only say a few words now. That's what my wife's parents used to do... they'd all pile into one bed and let my wife read to them. My parent's didn't do this much with me because they worked so many jobs.

I think we're on the right track.

My son has been spoiled a bit with toys from parents and grandparents that we just have piles of toys in different rooms... and whenever he gets in a room for playtime the first thing he does is grabs the books from the pile, sits on the floor, flips the pages and babbles to himself. My wife and I, as well as my mother-in-law (who watches him each day), read to him non-stop because of this.

Yeah. It's very important to read to your children at least initially. My kids are already recognizing letters and their names and me and my gf's name when printed.

We are taking the alphabet slow because of the importance of teaching what the letters look like and what sound they make, etc, as opposed to simply memorizing the letters in order which results in kids thinking 'ellemennopee' is a letter...

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Spot on.

I remember when I was graduating from High School my school decided to start giving everyone .5 bonuses for Sophomore Biology and another few classes. I remember we were all pissed because we wouldn't benefit from it. But yes, total scam.