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 Post subject: So Zaryi linked this thing on FB
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:14 am  
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It's no wonder women are so full of bile if this is the kind of shit being tossed at them:
http://jezebel.com/5899877/ambitious-go ... single-day

jezebel.com is hardly the epicenter of rational and unbiased opinion on the web. The misrepresentation in this article is a good example of why you can't take the site seriously. The whole site is designed to whip women into a frenzy over perceived sleights...the fact that these people have to falsely characterize what's being done to do so is shameful.

According to the analysis by the Legislative Reference Bureau, Wisconsin SB202 "eliminates the awarding of compensatory and punitive damages to persons who have been discriminated against in employment or subjected to unfair honesty or genetic testing. Under the bill, DWD may still award to such a person back pay, costs, and attorney fees." While I personally find this unnecessary and disagree with it, it does not, as the author of the Jezebel piece asserts, "repeal Wisconsin's equal pay law." THAT LAW still exists, SB202 only removes some of the civil penalties associated with breaking it and other laws designed to protect employees from the malfeasance of their employer.
http://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2011/re ... sals/sb202

Wisconsin SB237 is probably the only one of these bills properly represented by the author, but that bill doesn't just hurt young women, it's equally destructive for young men (not that anyone at jezebel.com cares about them). I'm still holding out hope that the Republican party will pull their heads out of their ass on the "abstinence" bullshit.

Wisconsin SB306 does nothing to further restrict abortions, and in fact "repeals the provisions in current law under which a pregnant woman who intentionally destroys the life of her unborn child or who consents to such destruction by another may be fined, imprisoned, or both." Despite the author's statement that the law "adds criminal penalties to doctors in the state," the only mention of criminal penalties I can find are fines the doctor must pay if they "violate the informed consent requirements." Those requirements are such that not only does a woman in question have to go through the normal red state 24 hour wait after being given the grisly details of the procedure, but that the doctor is also responsible for ensuring that the woman in question is not being coerced by another party to have the abortion. Another part of the "informed consent" portion compels the doctor inform the woman of services for victims or individuals at risk of domestic abuse and provide her with private access to a telephone. The bill also made the doctors civilly liable to their patient should their fail in any of these duties.

SB306 also waives or eliminates the 24 hour waiting period in cases of rape and/or incest under certain circumstances.

Wisconsin SB92 doesn't "ban private insurance coverage of abortion," as the piece asserts. It "prohibits coverage of abortions through health plans sold through exchanges," because the exchanges would be publicly funded (despite the author's snide comments about the law interfering with "private business"). The restriction on public funds being used for abortion has long had bi-partisan support, and even Al Gore voted for a similar measure when he was a member of the US Senate.

The article is crap. People are being lied to by this person.

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 Post subject: Re: So Zaryi linked this thing on FB
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:20 am  
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Can I have a short/brief plot synopsis?


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 Post subject: Re: So Zaryi linked this thing on FB
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:24 am  
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Huh?

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 Post subject: Re: So Zaryi linked this thing on FB
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Because I am biased, I agree completely with the OP.

Abortion? I am definitely pro-abortion, but I also feel that feminists have no place arguing against it so long as they demand the state get involved in peoples' personal lives (alimony, feminist subsidies and rape shields) when it suits their selfish drives.

The outrageous language and abject lies comprising the article betrays a fundamental truth about the feminist movement: it will recede further and further into radicalism and paranoia until the bubble bursts and no one takes them seriously anymore, leaving their both their constituents and those whose lives they have ruined high and dry.

This personally includes Zaryi, who naively believes that feminism will be of any utility to her when she is in her 30s, the feminist money has dried up and the men have moved on. When SlutWalks and "being in love with love" just doesn't work anymore, when suddenly people see her as just another humanoid economic unit walking down the street.

Thawed eggs and a sperm bank will not provide happiness or socially viable offspring.

Feminism belongs to the same tradition as the Salem Witch Trials, McCarthyism, the KKK and Communism.


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 Post subject: Re: So Zaryi linked this thing on FB
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:59 am  
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Jubbergun wrote:
Huh?

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Don't have it in me to read all that this early in the morning D:


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 Post subject: Re: So Zaryi linked this thing on FB
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:49 am  
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Let us all ignore the clear discrepancies because I am part of the upper hand.


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 Post subject: Re: So Zaryi linked this thing on FB
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Necrachilles wrote:
Don't have it in me to read all that this early in the morning D:


Basically, it's an article full of exaggeration and false characterization of recently signed legislation in Wisconsin. I was just pointing out where the errors are/were.

Jezebel is a terrible fucking site and the sort of venom that it injects into decent women like Zaryi (and some of my other friends) is honestly hurtful to their attitudes toward others, especially men. Sadly, that seems to be the objective of those who run and/or contribute to the site.

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 Post subject: Re: So Zaryi linked this thing on FB
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:15 am  
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Jubbergun wrote:
Jezebel is a terrible fucking site and the sort of venom that it injects into decent women like Zaryi (and some of my other friends) is honestly hurtful to their attitudes toward others, especially men. Sadly, that seems to be the objective of those who run and/or contribute to the site.


The fact that they choose to name the site after an unequivocally evil figure speaks volumes. Of course, this also holds true of the Cato Institute.

The funny thing is, "otherwise decent" women like Zaryi think they are on "the upper hand", but in reality, they are just being used as tools by the evil lesbian feminazis who write this crap.

Have you ever wondered why the dominant personalities of the feminist movement are people like Lagarde and Fluke? Never mainstream personalities - short of being heterosexual, at least people who are decently able to integrate their sexuality into their life short of dressing and gesticulating like men and orienting every aspect of their life around their alternative sexuality?

I've met these kinds of people. They have no real respect for anyone - male or female - and they regard heterosexual attraction with a combination of jealously and disgust only seen in Catholic nuns. Many of them are not truly lesbian, merely angry, frustrated, insecure women with severe penis envy. A surprising number even change their surnames, as nothing more than a statement of the profundity of their hostility towards all in the world that is not them.

These evil lesbian feminazis - people like Lagarde and Fluke - are the ones driving this train to nowhere.

Don't forget - until the feminists turned into feminazis back in the early 90s - when like every progressive movement, once their legitimate goals were achieved, the hardcore had to turn radical to stay relevant - consumerism was the enemy.

These very same people in the flesh once plotted to bomb the very stores they are now lobbying for.

These lesbians see hetero women as useful idiots. Nothing more. They are more than happy to invent rationalizations for them to buy into the consumerism oriented at the male sex drive they despise - glamour gear and Prada purses, video games and online dating - so long as doing so builds a platform for them to spit their vitriol from.

They do not care that they are making mainstream women believe lies.
They do not care that they are selling out their future by feeding them unrealistic expectations.
They do not care that they are endangering their long-term health by overprescribing meds.
They do not care that they are setting them up for a life of frustration and self-loathing.
They do not care that they are sowing the seeds of bitter alienation against all good men and women.
They do not care that they are driving them even deeper into debt than the men they turn them against.
They do not care that they are breeding them into a most precarious state of dependency.

The closest parallel is Indian gaming. Supposedly, the marketing of sin exists to better the lot of the Native Americans. In practice, it does nothing of the sort. The only ones who really cash in on the lucrative gaming contracts are the politically connected chiefs who hate their own people no less than they do whites. As for the natives themselves, Indian gaming only leads them further down the road to nowhere - down the road of vice and eternal dependency.

The same dynamic holds true for feminism.
There are the useful idiots, and there are the fat cats collecting fares on the train to nowhere.


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 Post subject: Re: So Zaryi linked this thing on FB
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:42 am  
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Feminism has long since stopped caring about whether or not their bullshit hurts women.

The ridiculously onesided marriage/divorce/custody laws crusaded for by feminists are the top reasons the amount of men actually WILLING to get married is decreasing.


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 Post subject: Re: So Zaryi linked this thing on FB
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I've noticed three factions within the feminism movement..those who advocate equality, the victim mentality feminists, and the super-"empowered"-women-are-more-important-than-men-anyway-so-give-us-more-rights type..


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 Post subject: Re: So Zaryi linked this thing on FB
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:44 pm  
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Battletard wrote:
I've noticed three factions within the feminism movement..those who advocate equality, the victim mentality feminists, and the super-"empowered"-women-are-more-important-than-men-anyway-so-give-us-more-rights type..


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 Post subject: Re: So Zaryi linked this thing on FB
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:37 pm  
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The former is a chimera as it became obsolete 20 years ago.

Those who claim to be feminists and identify with that position are really just less honest (or more deluded) members of groups 2 and 3.


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 Post subject: So Zaryi linked this thing on FB
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You're making sweeping generalizations that do not apply to all feminists. You could say 'most' and that would be debatable. Saying 'all' implies that you know everyone on the planet personally as well as their thoughts and views.

You need to acknowledge the people in the world who do want equality, without the extra selfish bullshit.


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 Post subject: Re: So Zaryi linked this thing on FB
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No, I don't, because the fact that objective of feminism is obsolete is reality independent of any one person's opinions.

This is a case of the Orwellian phrase "some are more equal than others". Why advocate equality for women to men and not the equality of men to women? If the aim is equality when that goal has already been in fact achieved, why approach it from that side?

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 Post subject: Re: So Zaryi linked this thing on FB
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:48 am  
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This thread is a circle-jerk, pure and simple.


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