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 Post subject: Question for Jubbergun
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:32 pm  
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What's it actually like preparing food aboard a sub? Zaryi and I wanted to know.

How much of the food is prepared vs pre-prepared?
How big is your staff?
How much space do you get to work with?
Do you have any really interesting tools or techniques for functioning in such an environment?
How do you serve the food?
How do you manage waste?


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 Post subject: Question for Jubbergun
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Aestu wrote:
How big is your staff?


Wowwww. Personal question much?


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Battletard wrote:
Wowwww. Personal question much?


He served on a submarine, man. Everyone aboard knows the size of everyone else's staff.

Not to mention, subs are the only male-only environment in the navy. Though it would be interesting to see how a female-only sub would perform. Maybe have them wear anime-style uniforms.

And if you think that is sexist, ask women if they think that Navy uniforms are sexy on men.


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All female sub, except with one man who is tied up and kept in the brig xD


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"...Think of it as being a life saver or perhaps a good team player."


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 Post subject: Re: Question for Jubbergun
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Depends on the submarine, honestly, but the one I was on, there was:

During the "day"
1 guy in the galley cooking the entire meal for 150+ people
1 guy doing the storage rotation, returning unused items to storage and pulling the new storage
1 guy doing the officer's mess--this was different on subs because officer's ate the same food as the crew, so the officer's mess didn't have to cook, but they were responsible for cleaning the officers washrooms, the CO and XO's rooms, and doing the officer's laundry
There were two senior enlisted guys who...really didn't do anything, honestly. The Chief spent most of his time playing cards, and pretended to do paperwork, which is almost exactly the same thing our 1st Class did.

At "night"
1 guy in the galley did the midnight meal and breakfast for 150+ people
1 guy worked the officer's mess

My sub was ginormous by submarine standards, and I had two ovens, a flat grill, a big Hobart mixer, a smaller Kitchen-Aid size mixer, a steamer, and 3 steam-jacketed kettles. There were two mini-fridges and a thaw box in the galley, too. Our freezer and refrigerator were outside in the hall, next to the dry stores. The ovens had sliding latches like a bathroom door to keep them closed in case we did angles.

The freezer was ridiculous, because the first day of patrol it was stacked bottom-to-top and front-to-back and you had to make a tunnel to get to what you needed because no one was ever smart enough to load the freezer so that what you would need for the first two weeks was in front (the run I did the storage job I fixed that, and my Chief and 1st Class were kind of pissed I did that, because it made my job "too easy")...the refrigerator was kind of the same way.

We kept eggs (the ones we got were chemically treated and dipped in a thin coat of some kind of wax to prolong their life span) in one of the fan rooms. It was cool in there, but not refrigerated, but it didn't matter because of the eggs we got. We also had the powdered eggs, and we used those in all our baking or recipes that called for liquid eggs to make the real eggs last longer. We also kept those little juice boxes of treated milk in the fan room (Parmalat was the brand, if I recall correctly), but we usually didn't need those unless we went two months without any kind of resupply, and most runs we'd rendezvous with a small boat to take on inspectors for drills and such.

Smaller subs had a thing called a frisbo machine, which used water and instant mashed potatoes to make french fries. I never got to use one, and it makes me sad in the pants.

Some of the neatest stuff was the dehydrated food. The eggs and milk were goddamn terrible, but some of the other stuff was so good you wouldn't know it wasn't frozen/refrigerated. The vegetables were always good, as was the dehydrated shrimp, but the best dehydrated product was the cottage cheese. It came out of the can looking like little styrofoam pellets, but after you added the water and let it set in the fridge for a few hours, you honestly could not tell the difference between dehydrated and fresh.

We also had an ice cream machine, and a Coke machine. The ice cream was dehydrated, and honestly wasn't bad. The Coke machine used the bag-in-box style syrup. The first two runs I did, though, we had the old canister type machine, and #10 cans of syrup. We'd have to open up the canisters and refill them from the #10 cans (which we kept in the fan rooms with the eggs). The BiB was a lot easier, but we had to keep the boxes in the dry stores, stacked behind a a net that kept them from rolling out of the cubby-hole into which we stuffed them.

I'd rather they kept the genders segregated on subs, all male or all female. It caused a lot of problems in surface ships when they integrated, but a lot of those problems were put under a lid because of politics. Senator Warner, who used to represent VA, always blocked any attempts to integrate the boats. The group most opposed to the integration wasn't the sailors, but their wives. I guess the fat hags didn't want the boys having any fun while they were fucking around on them back home. When I was in Groton, CT, we called the ones that used to come to the base club and chase younger sailors when their husbands went to sea a "Grotopotamus," because they were generally at least a little overweight and/or unattractive.

I don't think I can really add anything else of value.

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 Post subject: Re: Question for Jubbergun
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Very interesting. Especially the eggs. My question, though, was more about how much the extreme limitations of space affected the practical business of cooking. Though it sounds like submarines have become at least a little less hellish since the days of Das Boot.

I often wonder what it was like serving aboard a World War I U-boat.
I still marvel they actually managed to make those things run on battery power in 1915.

I still remember once whimsically mentioning that line of thinking to that German guy I worked for, whose father and uncles were all WWI vets. I still remember how he responded, whimsically but very seriously, "Oh, you know, they were good ships, very good ships."

Jubbergun wrote:
There were two senior enlisted guys who...really didn't do anything, honestly. The Chief spent most of his time playing cards, and pretended to do paperwork, which is almost exactly the same thing our 1st Class did.


Yes or no question, are you sure they were really sailors?


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 Post subject: Re: Question for Jubbergun
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Aestu wrote:
Yes or no question, are you sure they were really sailors?


If there were doing something when they didn't really need to be doing something, then I'd question whether or not they were sailors.


The space available wasn't bad on my boat. Fast attack subs are probably hell, though.

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 Post subject: Re: Question for Jubbergun
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taking advantage of a jubber thread:
i will be in mclean, va from the 26th through 29th. not sure what my transportation situation will be like, but potential beers?


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 Post subject: Re: Question for Jubbergun
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rikkilake wrote:
taking advantage of a jubber thread:
i will be in mclean, va from the 26th through 29th. not sure what my transportation situation will be like, but potential beers?


umm.. I'll be here too..


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Jubbergun wrote:
the best dehydrated product was the cottage cheese. It came out of the can looking like little styrofoam pellets, but after you added the water and let it set in the fridge for a few hours, you honestly could not tell the difference between dehydrated and fresh.


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 Post subject: Re: Question for Jubbergun
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Fantastique wrote:
rikkilake wrote:
taking advantage of a jubber thread:
i will be in mclean, va from the 26th through 29th. not sure what my transportation situation will be like, but potential beers?


umm.. I'll be here too..

oh, didn't realize how close things not in VA were
you can have the privilege of buying me a beer then


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 Post subject: Re: Question for Jubbergun
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Will you be in the area on Friday 6/29? I don't work that night. Otherwise, I always work Sunday - Thursday. Going in now, ttyl guys.


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 Post subject: Re: Question for Jubbergun
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Battletard wrote:
Will you be in the area on Friday 6/29? I don't work that night. Otherwise, I always work Sunday - Thursday. Going in now, ttyl guys.

the 29th is when we'll be traveling back i believe
i'll likely get all the details tomorrow (it's work-travel)


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