Bucket Guild | FUBU BH Forums

I Has a Bucket: Preventing bucket theft on Bleeding Hollow | FUBU: A better BH Forum
It is currently Sat Apr 19, 2025 2:39 pm



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 71 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Gym Workout Guides
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:54 pm  
User avatar

Kunckleheaded Knob
Joined: Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:24 pm
Posts: 276
Location: New Jersey
Offline

I purchased a gym membership today, and was wondering if anyone has a good guide or something they follow when they go.

I'm looking to get more fit, as well as gain muscles. (Lift weights, leg press, run, etc.) I'm pretty sure people follow guides or strategies so they don't hurt themselves. I'm not sure how it works, I think it's something like do legs one day, arms another, or something. I'm pretty nub when it comes to the gym, so if anyone has anything they follow, or a good write up of what to do day-by-day, that'd be pretty awesome! Thanks!


Image

Stream: www.athenelive.com/brykon
Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/Brykon50?feature=mhee
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gym Workout Guides
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:13 pm  
User avatar

Querulous Quidnunc
Joined: Thu May 13, 2010 3:18 pm
Posts: 7047
Offline

jog a mile, then do leg workouts, namely leg press/squats. then do whatever workout you have planned. light legs on days you do non-leg workouts, and space them apart so your body can recover. heavy legs mon/wed/fri, back/shoulders tues/thurs, chest/arms saturday.

legs are most important for a good warmup/workout, back and shoulders are most important for a strong frame/practical usage of muscles(moving shit, fights, etc.), chest and arms generally are just for looking good.


Image
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gym Workout Guides
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:54 pm  
User avatar

Querulous Quidnunc
Joined: Thu May 13, 2010 12:19 pm
Posts: 8116
Offline

This is of interest to me as well.


Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gym Workout Guides
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:28 pm  
User avatar

Kunckleheaded Knob
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 1:05 am
Posts: 312
Offline

The first thing you need to understand is everyone is different. What works wonders for one person will break another person in half. You could be following one persons routine and feel like you are accomplishing nothing or feel like the other person is insane for even doing half the shit they do. On that note. Learn what type of body you have. Learn your bone structure. Do you have long legs? Long Arms? Short or tall torso? All these factor into what lifts and cardio exercise work best for you. People with longs legs will have a tendency to find squats way harder and putting more strain on the knees then someone with shorter legs. This is due to the travel it takes to reach proper squat form. Same goes for the bench press and people with long arms.

Do not buy a book or use a guide that tells you how and what lifts body builders do. These are the fast track to getting hurt, especially for someone starting out. I would recommend a book called Beyond Brawn by Stewart McRobert. This book lays the ground work in a way that is easy to understand.

Honestly a good basic work out routine could consist of only three major lifts if you perform them all in a technically sound manner. You could do something like:

Monday - Bench Press
Wednesday - Dead lifts
Friday - Squats

With this setup or similar ones I would do cardio every day of the week MINUS the day I do leg workouts. That IMO is over working that muscle group a little too much. Now, if you find your body recover quicker than most you can do a Sunday/Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday setup spreading your lifts out accordingly.

Other thing to remember are stretching. Always get a good stretch going before any lifting(and cardio for that matter). Especially the target muscle group for that day. Diet is another HUGE factor. You say you want to gain muscle. Get ready to eat like a fat kid, but not eating fat kid foods. If you know a dietician or are willing to go see one even better. You need to figure out how much muscle mass you want to gain and what kind of and how many calories of clean food you need to intake a day to reach your goal. Now, if you just want your muscles to be more visible a healthy diet and a good amount of physical activity can achieve this. I used to be a fat sloppy POS. I drank too much mt dew and ate too much junk food. I went from 330 pounds to 240 in a year by dropping all the bad foods just making better choices at the store. It's not really that hard once you learn what to look for. The last 25 pounds for me took almost another 6 months because I had to push my body so hard to burn the fat( i have a really slow metabolism according to my doctor). 215 is my ideal weight according to the nutritionist i consulted. A couple times i dipped under 210 but i started feeling really weak and sick. BUT, back to the lifting. Remember to get plenty of rest to allow your body ample power down time to focus on recovering. This also let's your mind be more focused while working out.

There are so many more things to add that i am not going to be able to remember it all off the top of my head. One thing i would recommend is get a lifting partner that is at your level. For me that provided great motivation. Having someone to compete against, to give you shit on those days you don't feel like hitting that iron. There will be days like that too, you will feel whipped, or tired or just not motivated. Having that person helps.

I am not going to say I am an expert but I will try to answer any questions you have if you post em up here.


EDIT ::::: Breathing is soooooooo important when lifting. Inhale as you lower the weight, exhale as you exert the force to move the weight. Also, always maintain strict control of the weight when you are handling it. An example would be on the bench press. AS you lower the weight to your chest, inhale while lowering the barbell at a controlled speed(ie just don't let it fall to your chest). AS you begin pushing the weight up from your chest start to exhale ate the same time. Try to finish the exhale as your arms reach full extension.


[13:56:01] [W From] [Slimecrack]: I just wanted to tell your brown that when I look into its one brown eye, I see joy and love, thank god for your ass, PRAISE JESUS!


Last edited by Krunkz on Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gym Workout Guides
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:42 pm  
User avatar

Querulous Quidnunc
Joined: Thu May 13, 2010 12:19 pm
Posts: 8116
Offline

Very useful. ty.


Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Gym Workout Guides
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:46 pm  
User avatar

Str8 Actin Dude
Joined: Fri May 14, 2010 3:33 pm
Posts: 2988
Location: Frederick, Maryland
Offline

As far as diet goes, peanuts are great for bulking phase. And yes, stretching is very important, just as proper warmup/cool down is important.


Brawlsack

Taking an extended hiatus from gaming
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gym Workout Guides
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:00 pm  
User avatar

Kunckleheaded Knob
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 1:05 am
Posts: 312
Offline

The number one thing I see/hear of deterring people from lifting is the lack of progress. That's why i recommend a work out partner at your level. Also try to work out at off times at your gym. The less people around the easier it is to keep focus on your lifts and your goals. It can be very easy to glance over at someone lifting a good amount more then you and get that feeling you just aren't making good enough gains.

One way I kept myself motivated was by setting limits on the number of reps I could do per set on all my lifts. Take squats for example. If i did 11+ reps on a set of squats I would add 1 pound to that lift(i achieved this with these awsome 1/2, 1/4, and 1/8 pound weights i found). This not only gives you a goal (hitting that magic rep number) it also let's you see that progress, even if it isn't leaps and bounds. I also kept a journal of all my lifts. I recorded what lift I did on what date and how much i lifted and how many reps. After 5-6 months I would go back and look at what I lifted and compare. Every time I would feel better seeing that progress.


[13:56:01] [W From] [Slimecrack]: I just wanted to tell your brown that when I look into its one brown eye, I see joy and love, thank god for your ass, PRAISE JESUS!
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gym Workout Guides
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:24 pm  
User avatar

Kunckleheaded Knob
Joined: Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:24 pm
Posts: 276
Location: New Jersey
Offline

Thanks for all the useful info. I've been eating pretty healthy for the past year. Last summer, I ate on an extreme strict diet. I had sugar foods probably twice all summer. I've stuck to eating healthy, and will do so. I've got a few more questions too if you don't mind.

When and what are protein shakes used for? When do you want to have them and why do you want to have them? Would I even want or need them for just doing cardio and weights and such at the gym?

How often do you want to maintain one specific machine? Not counting cardio, but say dumbbells. How many do you want to try and do before you "overdue" it and to make sure you don't gain anything from it. Same with other machines like leg presses. I don't know if 5 minutes per machine is way to little, or you want to push yourself per machine to the point of barley able to continue.

Seeing what you said though krunkz, I'm not sure if that last one fits into the categories you said about each person is different and such. Just more wondering on the average time spent per machinery, or if it is just a personal issue you have to find out.


Image

Stream: www.athenelive.com/brykon
Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/Brykon50?feature=mhee
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gym Workout Guides
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:26 pm  
User avatar

French Faggot
Joined: Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:15 pm
Posts: 5227
Location: New Jersey
Offline

Send me your gym contract if you're ever unsure about something legal.


If destruction exists, we must destroy everything.
Shuruppak Yuratuhl
Slaad Shrpk Breizh
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gym Workout Guides
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:46 pm  
User avatar

Querulous Quidnunc
Joined: Thu May 13, 2010 12:19 pm
Posts: 8116
Offline

Yuratuhl wrote:
Send me your gym contract if you're ever unsure about something legal.


Aren't competent lawyers supposed to refrain from offering legal advice?


Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gym Workout Guides
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:54 pm  
User avatar

French Faggot
Joined: Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:15 pm
Posts: 5227
Location: New Jersey
Offline

I'm not a lawyer yet.

Besides, all I did was offer to read a contract that he already signed.


If destruction exists, we must destroy everything.
Shuruppak Yuratuhl
Slaad Shrpk Breizh
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gym Workout Guides
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:07 pm  
User avatar

Kunckleheaded Knob
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 1:05 am
Posts: 312
Offline

Brykon wrote:
Thanks for all the useful info. I've been eating pretty healthy for the past year. Last summer, I ate on an extreme strict diet. I had sugar foods probably twice all summer. I've stuck to eating healthy, and will do so. I've got a few more questions too if you don't mind.

When and what are protein shakes used for? When do you want to have them and why do you want to have them? Would I even want or need them for just doing cardio and weights and such at the gym?

How often do you want to maintain one specific machine? Not counting cardio, but say dumbbells. How many do you want to try and do before you "overdue" it and to make sure you don't gain anything from it. Same with other machines like leg presses. I don't know if 5 minutes per machine is way to little, or you want to push yourself per machine to the point of barley able to continue.

Seeing what you said though krunkz, I'm not sure if that last one fits into the categories you said about each person is different and such. Just more wondering on the average time spent per machinery, or if it is just a personal issue you have to find out.


Protein shakes when used properly are a good way to gain extra calories. I would drink one in the morning. Usually blended with a banana or some strawberries. This gave me some carbs in the morning along with protein to get me started. I would then drink one about an hour before I worked out, with out the fruit this time. IF you are looking to gain some muscle mass protein shakes are probably a good idea. I used them solely to supplement two of my 7 small meals for the day.


My specific workout routine consisted of Biceps/Back on monday, chest/triceps on wednesday and legs on fridays. The last thing in your 2nd paragraph is what i am used to calling lifting to failure. Which is a technique I employed when lifting. But let me get back to your first question about over doing a workout. If you are wanting to build muscle mass, you will need to make gain in weight. In my opinion, if you can do any certain lift more then 12 times per set ( i am basing this on a 3 set per lift routine) then you need to increase the weight. This is of course something you will need to test for yourself. Don't be afraid to start at a weight lower then what you can do. Start about 20% lighter at first until you get the technique for each lift down(free weights especially to avoid injury from fumbling a weight or losing grip etc). Once you feel comfortable with what you are working with start adding weight. Starting out this way the first few workouts you should feel slightly sore the next day. Once you move into the realm of weight gains beyond what your used to the soreness should be a little more pronounced. But this is why we start out slow. So you can learn the recovery times of your muscles. For me, my legs can take a hell of a beating and be fine in a day, but my arms will be a little sore 2-3 days after a good lift.

SO i guess I should answer the direct question of time per lift/machine/exercise. My answer is, as long as it takes to finish a full set. I do 3 sets of each lift. My reps vary as I do them to failure. Also figure warm up time on the machine. Basically starting out with about 60% of your normal working weight to do a few reps to warm up the muscles. I wouldn't worry about doing each set to failure(if that even sounds like something you would want to do) until you are well into lifting weights and are very comfortable with it.

I hope most of this doesn't sound like rambling. It is just something I love to talk about. lol


[13:56:01] [W From] [Slimecrack]: I just wanted to tell your brown that when I look into its one brown eye, I see joy and love, thank god for your ass, PRAISE JESUS!
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gym Workout Guides
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:57 pm  
User avatar

Querulous Quidnunc
Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:39 pm
Posts: 3686
Location: Potomac, MD
Offline

I want to reiterate the point on the breathing. It is, in my opinion, a total waste to work out if you're not breathing properly. Same goes for maintaining form.

REITERATING: Inhale when lowering the weight, exhale when lifting/exerting.


[✔] [item]Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker[/item] (Three)
[✔] [item]Sulfuras, Hand of Ragnaros[/item] (Two)
[✔] [item]32837[/item] & [item]32838[/item]
[✔] [item]Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury[/item]
[✔] [item]46017[/item]
[✔] [item]49623[/item] (Two)
[✔] [item]71086[/item]
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gym Workout Guides
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:30 pm  
User avatar

Feckless Fool
Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:53 pm
Posts: 1495
Offline

Fantastique wrote:
I want to reiterate the point on the breathing. It is, in my opinion, a total waste to work out if you're not breathing properly. Same goes for maintaining form.

REITERATING: Inhale when lowering the weight, exhale when lifting/exerting.

Fantastique, the last breath bender.


Image
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gym Workout Guides
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:56 pm  
User avatar

Blathering Buffoon
Joined: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:52 pm
Posts: 1083
Offline

squatz and oatz.

krunkz beat me to this post. i think me and him are the only posters who are actual gym rats. although i will say cardio is completely worthless. you can achieve a great body with lifting and proper diet. i would post a picture of myself to show how you don't need to do any cardio whatsoever, but i'm currently bulking hardcore and it wouldn't prove my point very well.


Verily, I have often laughed at weaklings who thought themselves proud because they had no claws.
Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 71 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron

World of Warcraft phpBB template "WoWMoonclaw" created by MAËVAH (ex-MOONCLAW) (v3.0.8.0) - wowcr.net : World of Warcraft styles & videos
© World of Warcraft and Blizzard Entertainment are trademarks or registered trademarks of Blizzard Entertainment, Inc. in the U.S. and/or other countries. wowcr.net is in no way associated with Blizzard Entertainment.
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group