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 Post subject: Subsidies on Junk Food
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:27 pm  
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Alright so I've been recently hired to do some (ugh) door to door canvasing of neighborhoods by an advocacy group in order to raise funds in order to:

1: Cap farm subsidies for wheat, corn and soy.
2: Cap Crop insurance at $40,000
3: One other thing I forget.

Point is, I'm looking for an argument on whether or not such a plan of action would work. Would crippling major factory farms that produce only wheat/corn/soy actually help smaller farms? And in turn would/could that lower the rates of "healthier, less processed foods" to a more affordable level, or is this stuff I'm supposed to be pitching just poppycock?


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 Post subject: Re: Subsidies on Junk Food
PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:19 am  
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Yes on all counts...except that you're up against big agribusiness so you will never win.

Good arguments:
1) Interference with free markets resulting in production of vast quantities of corn that no one wants
2) HFCS is bad for you and tastes worse than sugar
3) Subsides cause terrorist attacks because disgruntled third worlders in Africa turn to blowing stuff up because they can't compete with subsides
4) It makes no sense that one branch of the government spends taxpayer money growing this crap and another branch spends taxpayer money telling everyone it's bad for us
5) It's bad for the environment because factory farming uses a ton of oil and nitrogen-based fertilizer, which results in runoff and algal blooms that wipe out river ecosystems
6) Factory farming is excessively water intensive and contributes to habitat destruction, including driving many species of fish that people enjoy catching such as rainbow salmon to extinction
7) Factory farming is less labor-intensive than conventional farming, meaning that subsidizing it is effectively subsidizing unemployment
8) Factory farming contributes to illegal immigration because factory farms have more means and inclination to exploit migrant labor than small community-based farms


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 Post subject: Re: Subsidies on Junk Food
PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:40 am  
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Aestu wrote:
Yes on all counts...except that you're up against big agribusiness so you will never win.


Eh it's a coalition of 21 states doing grassroots awareness stuff, already apparently have gotten a amendment to the farm bill going through congress atm...but yeah who knows.


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 Post subject: Re: Subsidies on Junk Food
PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:43 am  
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Interesting. It wouldn't surprise me if my brother is involved. He's a political consultant in CA in the employ of the advocacy groups. He did high level work with water distribution negotiations between counties and the CA legislature and became convinced that big agribusiness had to be stopped.

Maybe I'll ask him about it sometime. Or not.


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 Post subject: Re: Subsidies on Junk Food
PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:29 am  
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cziiki wrote:
Eh it's a coalition of 21 states...


So basically every state that isn't a mid-west/farming state and is tired of propping up this bullshit?

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