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 Post subject: Wine Making
PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:46 pm  
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My roommates got me involved with some wine-making this summer. We had been talking about making a batch of mead for the longest time, and the local "last chance" grocery (you know, the places that sell the stuff that's going to hit its expiration date in two weeks for super cheap?) had 5 lb. containers of honey for $6 (honey doesn't go bad, so wow, that was fucking cheap). I bought up a 5 lb. container for myself and the two of my roommates that wanted to attempt to brew. The guys had already bought the yeast and some of the other supplies we needed. We each made a batch, and I just bottled mine tonight.

I didn't do a traditional mead. I heated about a gallon and a half of grape juice (which I had also obtained from the el cheapo grocery) and dissolved the honey in it. I had a two gallon container in which to let it ferment, and I had crushed some citrus fruits (limes and oranges, if you must know) in the bottom of it and put a few cinnamon sticks and about two tablespoons of whole cloves in with the fruit. After the juice/honey mix cooled, I started the yeast, added it to the mix, and poured it into the container with the fruit and spice.

I let that sit in the dark recesses of my closet for close to two months before I racked it (racking is basically pouring it into a new container while keeping as much of the schmutz in the old container as possible). Racking usually sets the yeast back to work. I didn't have another large container, so I strained the fermenting wine into the large pot in which I originally mixed the juice and honey, cleaned the container out, and poured it back in the container before returning it to the closet.

I let it set for about two weeks, then filtered it, again using the pot as part of the process. After it was filtered, I added potassium sorbate to kill the yeast and stop fermentation. I did a taste test and found it to be very dry, most likely due to the acidity of the citrus. I sweetened it with a pound of honey and two cups of water, which made it much more palatable. I put it back in its (once again thoroughly cleaned and sanitized) container and threw it back in the closet. I checked it every day or two since then to make sure there was no new gas build-up.

Today I felt comfortable that it was ready to bottle, so I started pouring it into bottles. I got the bottles at a local home-brew store, because I wanted them all to look alike, instead of recycling a bunch of different bottles. I ended up with 7-1/2 bottles! I was pretty stoked. I had bought a corking device and a bag of corks in addition to the box of bottles, and while I still need some practice corking (some of the bottle don't have the cork all the way down in the bottle, there's a bit stick out of the top), all my bottles are now filled, firmly sealed, and labeled.

I present to you my first closet wine:

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I am calling it "Mel Calcaria," which is Latin for "Honey Lime." The citrus made it dry, but also gives it a flavor that masks the strength of the alcohol. I drank a shot glass of it this morning, and it made my insides warm, and I'm no light-weight. I think the next batch I'm going to buy a hydrometer so I can test the alcohol content. It is very smooth (not just my opinion, I've had four guinea pigs so far), and the taste and finish really, really masks how strong it is. Pretty sure I'm going to win our little home-brew contest/wager.

Here's a close-up of one of the labels I did:

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If my pay raise comes through like it's supposed to in the next month or so, I'm going to buy a small oak cask to age my next batch in this fall/winter. I'm pretty sure I can improve on this first attempt. If I get decent with the wine, I may try home-brewing some beer.

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 Post subject: Re: Wine Making
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:23 am  
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This is awesome, amusing and coincidental!

My man called me last week and was like 'when are you free, I'm teaching you how to homebrew?'. Nice surprise too, I hadn't realized he knew how much I've wanted to learn how p do it. We bought the ingredients today, and are going to be making the wort Monday. I'll try and post photos when we start working on it :)


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 Post subject: Re: Wine Making
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:50 am  
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you're missing out if your're not picking your fruit, destemming them by hand, and smashing them with your feet. also, next time i'd suggest when you're racking to minimize the contact the wine has with the air. you're ok this time because the grape juice was probably already pasteurized, but just for future reference. i've had a cask sitting for 3 years in my laundry room. only 2 more years to go! sigh.


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 Post subject: Re: Wine Making
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:20 am  
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Is there a way to speed up the just sitting there waiting to be drank process? I feel like I'd lose interest after 5 years...


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 Post subject: Re: Wine Making
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:10 am  
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depends on the fruit and what kind of wine you're making. they sell kits online and in shops that can take as little as a couple months.


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 Post subject: Re: Wine Making
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:40 pm  
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What ate you making that needs to age 5 years in barrel? ._.


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 Post subject: Re: Wine Making
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:41 pm  
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Dotzilla wrote:
you're missing out if your're not picking your fruit, destemming them by hand, and smashing them with your feet. also, next time i'd suggest when you're racking to minimize the contact the wine has with the air. you're ok this time because the grape juice was probably already pasteurized, but just for future reference. i've had a cask sitting for 3 years in my laundry room. only 2 more years to go! sigh.


Yeah, the grape juice was pasteurized. It was also (God I hate this word) organic and had no added sugars or preservatives. My roommate is doing a small batch now with cherries his mom picked (no grapes, just cherries). This time was off-the-cuff with very little planning. I'll be picking up more supplies in the near future for my fall/winter batch, so I probably will be able to avoid exposing the wine to air at all next time. Are you aging your stuff that long so the wine will pick up some flavor from the wood cask? I was considering skipping the wooden cask and getting a glass or stainless steel container and using wood chips for that process.

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 Post subject: Re: Wine Making
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:55 pm  
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I wanna try!


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 Post subject: Re: Wine Making
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5+ years in oak will do more than just impart of a bit of oak, at that point it'll be all you're going to get, so I'm assuming Dotz's is using some sort of neutral barrel or stainless steel?

Also, you can buy grape juice from homebrew stores, which I would recommend, unless the juice you were using was from vinifera grapes. Otherwise I'm assuming it was lambrusca (concord) which makes subpar wine imo.


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 Post subject: Re: Wine Making
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:07 pm  
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Zaryi wrote:
What ate you making that needs to age 5 years in barrel? ._.


Whiskey?


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 Post subject: Re: Wine Making
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:55 pm  
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You should talk to mr. moocow about brewing and not letting it burn your stomach.


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 Post subject: Re: Wine Making
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:53 pm  
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diarrhea or oak

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the beer is still sitting in a keg probably 1000x overcarbonated because the gauge was broken and I don't care


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 Post subject: Re: Wine Making
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:59 pm  
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it's a glass cask, 5 years in oak would make it taste like....oak.

but yeah, one day a friend and me were walking through farmland in rural texas hunting boars when we happened upon a shitload of grapes growing unassisted on a horse fence. we took a picture of it and asked a botany website to identify it and they told us they were "Wild Mustang Grapes". after some internet research we found a recipe, went back, and picked about 60lbs.

i'm totally baked right now so the chemistry specifics elude me, but i believe the wine needs to ferment that long because the grapes are so naturally sour and acidic, that the sugar needs that much time to offset it. they were so sour! they were virtually unedible, and the skin burned your fingers after prolonged exposure. i have some pictures on my facebook of the destemming, pressing, and racking, if you'd like to see them.


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 Post subject: Re: Wine Making
PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:26 am  
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Dotzilla wrote:
i'm totally baked right now so the chemistry specifics elude me, but i believe the wine needs to ferment that long because the grapes are so naturally sour and acidic, that the sugar needs that much time to offset it. they were so sour! they were virtually unedible, and the skin burned your fingers after prolonged exposure. i have some pictures on my facebook of the destemming, pressing, and racking, if you'd like to see them.


would love to. i've never seen wine in a homebrew scale, and i'd love to check out how you did it.

still need to wander over the grocery store and buy a # of honey for my brew ._.


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 Post subject: Re: Wine Making
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I was looking for the perfect thing to dip my onion rings in, and it occurred to me: soy sauce.
I really like soy sauce.

Reading up on it, it's produced by fermentation from what appear to be relatively common ingredients.
How distinct/difficult is it to ferment homemade soy sauce compared to beer or wine?


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