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 Post subject: Serious stupidity.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:29 am  
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/apnewsbreak-mass-judge-oks-sex-change-inmate-17149732#.UEdpiiLi7To

It's PRISON! It's not supposed to be a fun, happy place for a lifer. And, we aren't trying to rehabilitate this nutjob. If you wanted a life as a woman, maybe you shouldn't have murdered someone.

On the other hand, prison isn't supposed to be cruel either. I don't know who decides what is cruel, or whatever, but if it is determined that this guy is in some kind of perpetual torment, then I suppose he should be treated as if he had any other illness.

Lastly...$20,000? They're spending more fighting this than the surgery would cost. Do the change, then transfer the inmate to a female prison. Done. This doesn't seem that complex.



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 Post subject: Re: Serious stupidity.
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invent a disease and sell the cure


All this is really about is these radicals pushing their agenda not out of any sort of compassion but a desire for money and power.

And I don't believe this can be done for $20k (including followup/antibiotics/hormones/prosthetics/etc).
I'd like to see the accounting on that.


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 Post subject: Re: Serious stupidity.
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Boredalt wrote:
Lastly...$20,000? They're spending more fighting this than the surgery would cost. Do the change, then transfer the inmate to a female prison. Done. This doesn't seem that complex.


I imagine the logic is "spend the money fighting this now to avoid paying for multiple instances of this surgery later."

That said, I have no legal opinion on this.


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 Post subject: Re: Serious stupidity.
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Yuratuhl wrote:
That said, I have no legal opinion on this.


Hmm disappointing.



I don't get it though...do they transfer her once she gets the surgery? If they don't, won't she just get raped a ton?


Makes no sense to me. Asking taxpayers to foot the bill for a $20,000 sexual reassignment surgery for a convicted murderer is just absurd. Shit like this and the defense budget is what makes me dislike the government and taxes.


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 Post subject: Re: Serious stupidity.
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Elective surgeries should be illegal for convicted felons.


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Boredalt wrote:
P.S. They're removing the wrong head, imo.



I got an underwhelming response for this quality humor!


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 Post subject: Re: Serious stupidity.
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I dunno man, with domestic violence and divorce laws the way they are, that's a little too prophetic for me!


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 Post subject: Re: Serious stupidity.
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Boredalt wrote:
Boredalt wrote:
P.S. They're removing the wrong head, imo.



I got an underwhelming response for this quality humor!

I smirked at it


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Aestu wrote:
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invent a disease and sell the cure


All this is really about is these radicals pushing their agenda not out of any sort of compassion but a desire for money and power.

And I don't believe this can be done for $20k (including followup/antibiotics/hormones/prosthetics/etc).
I'd like to see the accounting on that.


Certainly not in America, I would think.

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Elective surgeries should be illegal for convicted felons.


I imagine this is considered treatment for a condition/disorder(whatever they call it), and not a "tits sure are cool, wish I had some!" kind of thing. It's not like he's getting a new nose or botex.


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 Post subject: Re: Serious stupidity.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/17/michelle-kosilek-inmate-robert-kosilek-legal-fees-sex-change_n_1890043.html?icid=maing-grid7|aim|dl10|sec3_lnk1%26pLid%3D206857

Just keeps getting better. This is what this entire process/case/situation has really been about. I'd be willing to wager that if, in the beginning, the attorneys were informed that this was pro bono, this case would never have seen a courtroom. I like how the press is calling him Michelle and referring to him as "her". :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Serious stupidity.
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Huh? The lawyers are probably activists themselves and have a sponsorship of some sort from one of those organizations. They knew what they were getting into. Reimbursement for legal expenses isn't unusual (and is mostly championed by right-wing interests because it makes it very hard to sue large corporations).

This is about aggression by the GLBT lobby. Simple as that.


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 Post subject: Re: Serious stupidity.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:53 pm  
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Aestu wrote:
Huh? The lawyers are probably activists themselves and have a sponsorship of some sort from one of those organizations. They knew what they were getting into. Reimbursement for legal expenses isn't unusual (and is mostly championed by right-wing interests because it makes it very hard to sue large corporations).

This is about aggression by the GLBT lobby. Simple as that.



Agreed.


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 Post subject: Re: Serious stupidity.
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Just bizarre.

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Lawyers are required to contribute a certain amount of pro bono hours per year.


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