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 Post subject: Example for demonstrating english proficiency
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:58 pm  
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So I walked into the classroom this morning trying to test out of ENG 110 and laughed my ass off at the prompt they gave me to write about:

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THE CRISIS IN subprime mortgages betrays a deeper predicament facing consumer capitalism triumphant: The "Protestant ethos" of hard work and deferred gratification has been replaced by an infantilist ethos of easy credit and impulsive consumption that puts democracy and the market system at risk.

Capitalism's core virtue is that it marries altruism and self-interest. In producing goods and services that answer real consumer needs, it secures a profit for producers. Doing good for others turns out to entail doing well for yourself.

Capitalism's success, however, has meant that core wants in the developed world are now mostly met and that too many goods are now chasing too few needs. Yet capitalism requires us to "need" all that it produces in order to survive. So it busies itself manufacturing needs for the wealthy while ignoring the wants of the truly needy. Global inequality means that while the wealthy have too few needs, the needy have too little wealth.

Capitalism is stymied, courting long-term disaster. We still work hard, but only so that we can pay and play. In order to turn reluctant consumers with few unsatisfied core needs into permanent shoppers, producers must dumb down consumers, shape their wants, take over their life worlds, encourage impulse buying, cultivate shopoholism and invent new needs. At the same time, they empower kids as shoppers by legitimizing their unformed tastes and mercurial wants and detaching them from their gatekeeper mothers and fathers and teachers and pastors. The kids include toddlers who recognize brand logos before they can talk and commodity-minded baby Einsteins who learn to shop before they can walk.

Consumerism needs this infantilist ethos because it favors laxity and leisure over discipline and denial, values childish impetuosity and juvenile narcissism over adult order and enlightened self-interest, and prefers consumption-directed play to spontaneous recreation. The ethos feeds a private-market logic ("What I want is what society needs!") and combats the public logic fashioned by democracy ("What society needs is what I want to want!").

This is capitalism's all-too-logical way of solving the problem of too many goods chasing too few needs. It makes consuming ubiquitous and omnipresent, turning shopping into an addiction facilitated by easy credit.

Compare any traditional town square with a modern suburban mall. In the square, you'll find a school, town hall, library, general store, park, movie house, church, art gallery and homes -- a true neighborhood exhibiting our human diversity as beings who do more than simply consume. But our new town malls are all shopping, all the time.

When we see politics permeate every sector of life, we call it totalitarianism. When religion rules all, we call it theocracy. But when commerce dominates everything, we call it liberty. Can we redirect capitalism to its proper end: the satisfaction of real human needs? Well, why not?

The world teems with elemental wants and is peopled by billions who are needy. They do not need iPods, but they do need potable water, not colas but inexpensive medicines, not MTV but their ABCs. They need mortgages they can afford, not funny-money easy credit.

To serve such needs, however, capitalism must once again learn to defer profits and empower the needy as customers. Entrepreneurs wanted! With micro-credit, villagers can construct hand pumps and water filters from the clay under their feet. Pharmaceutical companies ought to be thinking about how to sell inexpensive retro-virals to Africans with HIV instead of pushing Botox to the "forever young" customers they are trying to manufacture here. And parents can refuse to relinquish their gatekeeping roles and let marketers know they won't allow their kids to be targeted anymore.

To do this, we will require the assistance of democratic institutions and an adult ethos. Public citizens must be restored to their proper place as masters of their private choices. To sustain itself, capitalism will once again have to respond to real needs instead of trying to fabricate synthetic ones -- or risk consuming itself.


i systematically destroyed this feel-good rhetoric about capitalism being an "altruistic" institution, and ranted excessively about how this dude's naive view of humanity as some kind of shining example of civilization is completely unfounded by fact.

anyway, for all you argument turds out there, i thought this might be an interesting bit of kindle.


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 Post subject: Re: Example for demonstrating english proficiency
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Capitalism is anything but altruistic, and "micro-credit" is a scam. The bit about Protestant ethos is pure bigotry (lol Ann Coultier).

Protestant capitalism was built on the exploitation of both the natural environment and every other ethnic group, and the export market created by 200 years of European continental wars. When Nature was exhausted, other ethnic groups refused to accept exploitative arrangements, and 3,000 years of continental war came to an end with the founding of the European Union, Protestant capitalism ceased to be able exploit others, so it resorted to exploiting its own. The chickens came home to roost.

What the article advocates, however, is a disingenuous fallback position for wealthy interests who know too well that capitalism is their sacred cow being led to the altar by a new generation of angry Americans. The article doesn't call for what is necessary - a fundamental overhaul of capitalism - but old-fashioned colonialism, resorting to loan sharking and the selling of fish to third-worlders to compensate for the inability of first-world capitalism to create wealth at home, wrapped up in the same self-righteous rhetoric that was used to justify colonialism 100 years ago.

The moral argument made by the article (clearly completely lost on you and I doubt you even read it) is very, very true and this is something completely lost on most Americans. I was thinking about it just before you posted this, actually.

However, in context with the bit about WASPism and chauvinistic imperialist nonsense, and other things I've read in the same vein lately, I think the author's real goal is not to restore moral society but the subversion of free society by the same super-rich who caused this mess, in the same way "family values" and domestic abuse are valid concerns that invariably serve as stalking horses for Christian fundamentalists and radical feminism.

My impression has been that after Romney's defeat, the corporate lobby has realized that popular forces are too strong to be overcome by the levers of control in the status quo. Rather than accept reform or continue to fail at manipulating democracy, they have decided to go for broke and make war on the democratic system itself. Hence you see right-wing bloggers appealing to WASP racial insecurity and using fear of black people to convince poor whites to support changing the voting rules.

One idea that I see floated a lot by paid bloggers is linking voting rights to academic qualifications. At the same time, the right wing has invested heavily in degree milling for the purpose of advancing its aims. I remember this meeting at Northeastern University about their dual-degree MBA/MSA program. These right-wing consultants just sat there coolly scoping out the room while this idiot who boasted she "wore her MBA around her neck" trumpeted the partnership between academia and the business interests, "they sit on our admissions boards, it's great". This is also why Romney concurrently obtained an MBA and a JD.

My belief is that dual-degree milling is part of this longer-term strategy by business interests to subvert a democracy they can no longer control, through linking citizenship with military service or academic degrees and putting them out of reach of most citizens.

How this new agenda will play out is beyond my imagining.


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It sounds to me like you're fucking stupid, probably only read the first and last paragraph, and are on the road to failure at basic English for the same reasons you fail math and history.


that hurt my feelings, actually.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:54 pm  
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Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not.

Anyway, this is Aestu we're talking about. It's his rhetoric. Don't let it get to you.


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Actually, after sleeping on it, I decided to delete that first part. I shouldn't have said that, sorry.


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Dotzilla wrote:
that hurt my feelings, actually.


I'm not sure why that bothers you. I think it's been pretty well established that Aestu's reading comprehension is abysmal and him calling anyone else out for failing at English in any way, shape, or form is absolutely hilarious.

I'm not saying Aestu is stupid, but he often misses the actual point of things that are written on a fairly regular basis. I would credit his comprehension problem to carelessness or some sort of unusual digging for points/information that are/is implied and not stated. Regardless of the reason, he's throwing stones out the window of a glass house.

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Actually, after sleeping on it, I decided to delete that first part. I shouldn't have said that, sorry.


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Aestu wrote:
Actually, after sleeping on it, I decided to delete that first part. I shouldn't have said that, sorry.

thanks.

now onto the arguing part. i was hoping you'd have something to say about the article. the moral argument was not lost on me. its naivety was pervasive. he seemed to be suggesting that all the mitt romneys of the world suddenly care less about profits and more about cheap antivirals for africans. he also seemed to be suggesting that parents/guardians or "gatekeepers" as he comically referred to them, had any control over the exposure of consumerism to children.


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parents/guardians or "gatekeepers" as he comically referred to them, had any control over the exposure of consumerism to children


They don't, but they should. I see no way to accomplish that other than the restoration of traditional family values, and by that I don't mean gaybashing. I think there needs to be a fundamental restructuring of American society so as to discourage two-wage households and encourage parents to spend more time with their children.

Recent interactions with my parents and other Baby Boomers has led me to fundamentally re-examine my views about Social Security and family life.

As everyone knows, I despise my parents. Many people find my lack of respect for my parents appalling; my response is that they have never shown me any respect and give no thought to my future. People often try to guilt-trip me over the Fifth Commandment - "honor thy mother and thy father". But there is no reciprocal commandment to honor one's son. So I started to think about why that is so.

Everyone knows the story of Jacob. The man was blessed by God because he had ten sons. But why was this considered a blessing? The answer is, because his sons could do what they were doing in the Bible when they decided to throw their father's favorite down the well: tend his flocks and help him survive lean times.

This paradigm is culturally universal. The Romans, for example, practiced patrias potestas (man of house as absolute authority over household), yet they were also known to highly honor their children and strive to push them through life. Hence the story of the Aeneid: how Aeneas fled the destruction of Troy, leading his son by the hand and carrying his father on his back. Loyalty and conservatism were virtues on which the Romans built a mighty empire.

During the Middle Ages, Europeans strove to have as many male children as possible, because young men could work the fields and be expected to protect their father and advance his interests. Social evolution - survival of the fittest social arrangements - eventually gave rise to male primogeniture, the tradition of bequeathing the whole of one's estate to the firstborn son. This was so because if fathers distributed their holdings equally amongst their sons, the incentive to have as many sons as possible would quickly Balkanize estates and make them easy pickings for other families with fewer children.

Those disenfranchised younger men, being unable to lord over the family estate, did the only thing they could: they took up the sword and became knights. When there were no wars to fight, they started their own, and when they couldn't do that either, they beat people up and took their stuff. The social need to get rid of all these angry young men running around with swords, was the true cause of the Crusades - not Christianity.

Going back to the Ten Commandments, I agree with the Protestants that they are the basis of all Western moral law. However, like many things the Protestants are at least partly correct about, they lack the intellectual training and personal depth to truly understand the topic in question.

The Ten Commandments are moral law because they are all impositions on our personal gratification, designed to ensure that people can get along.

Take, for example, the Second Commandment: to "honor the Sabbath". This commandment is very wise, for reasons that are now becoming eminently apparent. Obviously the man who is able and willing to till his fields seven days a week has the advantage over the man who tills for only six, either because he likes having a day free of labor, or because he has to spend time caring for a sick mother, a pregnant wife, and a crippled son. Obviously if the former is allowed to till as much as he pleases, he shall soon be able to buy the latter out of his farm, by producing more crops at a lower price. We are no longer a land of small farmers, but the wisdom of this commandment is more apparent than ever - and completely lost on those Protestants who talk about it but don't understand it. We cannot allow people to work as hard as they want, keep all their gains and lead society down a race to the bottom.

Then there's the Fifth Commandment. "Honor thy parents". There is no reciprocal commandment to "honor thy son", because prior to the advent of Social Security, it wasn't necessary. One need not be commanded to "honor thy son" any more than the need to "honor thy horse", for the same reason, which is that they are investments ensuring towards one's own livelihood. Again, it must be remembered: every one of the Ten Commandments is a restriction on personal gratification. For a son, there was a strong incentive to let the parents starve in their waning years and monopolize the fruits of one's labor. The Ten Commandments and similar traditional laws put a check on this, and in doing so, made society stable.

Social Security disrupted this paradigm by creating a strong disincentive for parents to ensure their sons' livelihood - after all, Social Security will be paid for, by other people's sons, no matter how much you suck at parenting. The result was what is now emerging as a serious social problem, parental apathy, seeing children as an economic burden and viewing their future with relative indifference.

There are some who say Social Security is just plain wrong and should be scrapped. Those people are also ignorant, for the reason that they forget why Social Security came about: the pre-existing status quo wasn't good enough, and really it never was. Hence the Crusades, or the Fall of the Republic. The Ten Commandments only ever worked in stable, homogenous societies, where those who fell through the cracks were seen as everyone's problem. This is why absolute democracy works in countries like Switzerland or Scandinavia, but not here: because they are highly stable, homogenous societies with no concept of individuality as we understand it. Conversely, it's no coincidence that the Bible-Thumper who parrots a book he does not understand is also a racist bigot.

My paternal grandmother was a Jewish Socialist. The secular movement, which grew out of Jewish ethnic experiences as scapegoats for all the failings of the Czarist regime (something still within living memory at the time, as the reason we came to America), being discriminated against by WASPs, longing for the sense of purpose and belonging of the traditional shtetl way of life, and the traditional Jewish notions of tzedakah and mitzvot, was dying out by the time my father was born. When my grandmother was asked why the movement died out, she replied, "It needed more. It needed God."

My life experiences have led me to see the wisdom in those words. I have come to believe that consumerism, psychology and pop science are the result of what I call frustrated secularism. The inability of moral relativism and self-interest to provide order and purpose for human existence. I have come to believe that religion and spiritual life must have a place in society, for man's own sake.

There is the story of the Golden Calf. Moses went up to Mt Sinai to receive the Ten Commandments from God. While he was up there, the Jews, nervous and upset that their charismatic and assertive leader was away, decided that they needed a God they could see and touch, to make them feel comfortable with their lives. So they convinced Aaron to create the Golden Calf. When Moses returned, he was furious, and smashed the Ten Commandments against the idol, destroying both. God, in his infinite generosity, provided another set of the Commandments.

Some fools would ask whether one really believes God gave Moses the Ten Commandments, or Moses just spent 40 days on top of that mountain agonizingly carving them into stone by his own hand. Those people are fools, because they do not understand that one need not believe in God at all to understand the story. The wisdom of the story is, man's need for a higher power is a constant, and if a God based on truth is not in evidence, he will create one based on falsehood.

I developed an excellent rhetorical exercise to use against people who are atheists not because they are sceptical, but because they are arrogant and foolish. Ask them if they believe in God. When they say no, feign scepticism and ask them where God came from. When they reply that it was made up, ask why. When they say that it was because man needed God, then point out that is the central hypocrisy of the trendy atheist argument, it blames religion and God for man's problems while simultaneously attributing the existence of those things to man's character, without offering any real answers.

It is at this juncture that religious idiots leap up to blame atheists for the decline in public morality. In reality, the blame is properly laid not with atheists, but with religious people.

Religion ceased to be a positive force in American society because it became corrupted by forces it did not have the moral strength to stand against - racism, bigotry, self-interest, jimboism, pollution. Religious proponents should have observed the moral imperative to stand against the Vietnam War, against poverty, against destruction of the environment, against Jim Crow, against self-interest as a way of life. Rather than take a moral stand, they allowed themselves to fall victim to their own prejudices, or even worse, turned to demagoguery. This is why today, for all the talk of Protestant and Conservative Jewish hypocrites about God, God is very much Dead. With God clearly dead and buried, atheism becomes rational. And that is why society is starkly divided between smug, ignorant atheists and bigoted Tea Party mega-churches.

I am a firm believer in dialectics and synthesis as a valid interpretation of history. I also agree with the Marxist premise that history is fundamentally the history of class warfare, with other issues such as national rivalry and technological progress as secondary issues.

All of this is why I am a Reform Jew, and why it is that tradition that guides my political vision. I see no contradiction between being an atheist and being motivated by strong religious convictions. Unlike most atheists, I do not believe that God doesn't exist, rather, I know why God doesn't exist.

So back to the initial question: what to do about family life and consumerism?

The answer is, there has to be a synthesis between the new and the old. We must seek to capture the wisdom and compassion of traditional religious laws in modern society, find the moral strength to see beyond arbitrary divisions in race, lifestyle and faith, and redefine religion not as an arbitrary set of commandments, but as a wisdom that transcends day-to-day concerns, man's imperative to look beyond his own self-interest and observe a moral purpose greater than himself.

To that end, we should restructure Social Security to provide greater returns to families that raise 1-3 children to productive adulthood, while ensuring nominal returns for parents with fewer or more children. Parents that raise their children to their same income bracket or higher should be richly rewarded, and those who fail to do so should find the last years of their life meager, but not impossible. At the same time, Social Security taxes on the very successful should be dramatically increased to fund other social programs, ensuring meritocratic social churn without too much ambition-driven instability, and incentivizing parents to keep close watch on their children.

We should massively increase deductions for housewives and allow stipends for mothers, scaling with the academic performance of their children. Two-wage earner households should face much higher taxes than they currently do. At least one parent must have the means and the incentive to spend time with their children. The work week should be capped at five days, and the workday capped at eight hours. Paternal and maternal leave should be enforced by law.

To this end, we must restructure American society to make it easier to get by on less. How, is the topic of another chapter in this book.

But before we can do any of that, I believe America must have a moral awakening. Americans of all cultures must understand the need for a return of the ancient wisdom, to give us a sense of moral direction to the future. Although this may seem idealistic and far-fetched, I would say it is not so.

Religious organizations, struggling to survive in a world in which they are increasingly irrelevant and without credibility, must revitalize by reclaiming their ancient purpose, not as dogmatists, but as humanitarians, reinforcing the universal moral laws that make society work. They must form a united front with other faiths, and rediscover the true meaning of both Passover and the Eucharist: as reminders of man's imperative to know his history and what is expected of him. Religious people must see themselves as allies, not enemies, of secular scholars who look to a literal interpretation of history.

Religious organizations must come to support space exploration, environmentalism, secular education and public services, for the same reason, they must define those agendas as part of their mandate to pay homage to a world bigger than petty material self-interest. And if existing faiths will not do it...new faiths will. Christians gab about Jesus, but they do not really appreciate who he was and what he did: he challenged cynical dogmatism with a way of thinking based on genuine compassion. A historical inevitability.

Americans will hear the call to a new way of life, based on ancient wisdom fused with modern industrial secularism, when the current one, based on consumerism and wanton self-interest, finally is revealed as the fraud it is, when Americans grow tired of the chaos, debauchery, and despair of our current social order. It happened in the past, when Romans turned to Christianity for answers, and when later Christians in turn turned to the Classical past for answers. Each time, a slightly more perfect wisdom gradually emerged, taking the best of the old and new. The wheel of history is turning again.


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That is VERY long (even by Aestu standards) but you really should read it all. I am curious what some people (Jushiro, Jubber, Dotzilla and Azelma especially) will think.

Your input will shape the rest of the material.

Watching this might make what I say easier to understand. We see that world as existing in the past - and it is the past - but I see no reason why we could not take that wisdom and build a new world based on what was good then and what is good now. It would just take a bit of courage and imagination, and a lot of TLDRs.

(also, that is physically more or less what my father looks like, possibly by design)


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Every thing that was wrong about that was more than counterbalanced by everything that was right about it. I'm one of those people that thinks we threw out the baby with the bath water when we tossed out traditions that had true value to society alongside those that there were an impediment to justice and prosperity because they were somehow tied together with objectionable parts of religion or culture. We destroyed stable two-parent households in impoverished communities in the 60s and 70s with welfare laws that would do little or nothing to assist a two-parent families and encouraged what became an epidemic of single mothers. That's just one way our society has created perverse incentives that encourages questionable behavior.

People no longer know how to enjoy simple pleasures. Most people's entire world is defined by media, which gives them a fantastic panorama on lifestyles few can afford. Everyone "needs" the newest iPhone. "Everyone" has a flat-screen TV, and if they don't they're falling behind somehow. No one in NYC in their 20s could have afforded either of the apartments you saw every week on Friends, even in the 1990s, even with roommates. Media has pumped up people's expectations of what their lives are supposed to be, and when those expectations aren't met, they're miserable and blame "the 1%," or "The Man," or whoever the bogey-man scapegoat of the day happens to be. I waste so much less time and money on going out and (obviously) beer since I've taken up brewing beer. It's something everyone in the world once knew how to do. Now it's a "crafting" hobby. I think a lot of people are trying to fill a void they feel in their lives with things, and they should be encouraged, by media and society, to fill that void with skills and knowledge. Those are the things that make people feel better about themselves.

I really think the worst thing for our society was the moment someone being told they were being "judgmental" became a derogatory remark. "Don't judge me, man" is really just a code-phrase used by people who realize that there need to be some standards and they aren't meeting those standards...even when they can't express what those standards should be or are. It's just saying, "how dare you make me feel bad about something about which I should feel bad."

I especially appreciate that you recognize what a benefit many European nations derive from having homogeneous populations. You know that's usually one of my arguments against trying things that work in certain European countries here in the US. Our country is just too large in too many ways--too many different religions, too many regional differences, too many different sub-cultures--for us to ever find a one-size-fits-all solution as some other countries have.

The problem is complex, but I think you've struck some of the root causes.

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I agree about tacky garbage - that is why I prefer old things, or things crafted by artisans. I think that artisanship should be encouraged, and the way to do that is to reduce the cost of land, education and materials - make it so owning a workshop and a small stand is a viable source of income, which today it isn't, because of how expensive land is and the exorbitant cost of modern living. Artisan works are less efficient than industrial goods, so promoting them at the expense of factory-made items will raise employment.

It's also why people need the opportunity and inclination to do other things than watch TV. Incentivize family life and build skate parks and arboretums, host athletic competitions. That sort of thing.

History teaches us that a heterogenous people can become a united people over time, if they share institutions and traditions.

This is why I believe that we must, one the one hand, invest in city improvements and public safety, and on the other, bring back the buffalo and encourage its raising and consumption, encourage the renewal of the American ecosystem (especially via the planting of redwoods, which are unique to America and grow very fast and very large), bring back conscription, and invest in space exploration.

In Israel, for example, conscription is a national rite of passage. Unless, of course, you're Hasidic, and that's why everyone hates those people. You'd never know looking at it, but Japan is actually a young country, less than a third the age of China. Yet everyone knows where sushi comes from and what a tea garden is. What turned a bunch of half-Ainu Chinese social dropouts into a united people capable of great things can work here too.

People will feel more loyal and dedicated to a country that provides safety and security, and feel encouraged to pay it forward when they see themselves as part of a glorious national enterprise - hence the importance of environmental protection and space exploration. The Saturn V should replace the Nimitz-class as the basis of the American national peenor.

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The background is no coincidence. Justifying nationalism on the basis of environmentalism is possibly the only really good idea to ever be inspired by that game. And I'm not so dense to think that was the original intent (lol).

This land was stolen from the Native Americans, unlike other cultures who have essentially always lived where they are. As they say - easy come, easy go.

I think that lack of appreciation for our physical environment is a fundamental problem in American culture, and it reaches through every aspect of American life. Life is more rewarding when you see yourself as part of a continuum, and the land is part of that. Having a shared sense of culture linked to national feats and the land we live on would be a means of overcoming many of our national problems.

This is also why more people should play SMAC/Civ3.
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I am supposed to get a good job to look after my parents when they retire.

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Jubber, watch this movie.

Also, you mention apartments like on Friends - my parents were NYC natives and always said that Seinfeld was an accurate portrayal of NYC, but Friends is nothing like it culturally or materially, in part for the reason the protagonists have massive apartments (same with Sex & the City).

I'm curious what you make of my apartment's style. Materialistic, but not in the conventional way.
Of course, you already know how it was put together...

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Obvious fishing for a compliment. If only I had a job and a chick...

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I am supposed to get a good job to look after my parents when they retire. Ha.


You read that "Open Letter From A Millennial", didn't you?

I would particularly value your opinion on what I wrote if you have the patience to read it =P


Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.
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 Post subject: Re: Example for demonstrating english proficiency
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Came in expecting dick slapping. Instead I see you guys are dick slapping.


Carry on.
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