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Hoping to turn this thread into a discussion about different guilds on the server. Not necessarily bashing/praising any one in particular though dissenting opinions are always welcome. I would love to hear what everyone's different takes are on the guilds. Have you had good/bad experiences with the guilds? Have you been a member? How were you treated? Was the governing body of the guild ethical in their "rulings"?

Again, please refrain from posting things like:
"LOLOLOLOLOLTempest transferred and they are bad"
"TB transferred for attempts!"

Though those discussion can be had I was hoping for more intelligent conversation

Well, I've had very limited experience with the guilds of Bleeding Hollow. Although, i will admit I got caught up in the drama and made an epic, albeit not so friendly, flame post on various guilds, which did more to teach me about in-game stuff than anything else.

The only guilds I've been in worth discussing really were:

<Wu Tang Financial> - I had a really great time there, and they have some great players etc. Here I became a bit of a loot whore and thought I wanted to be in a "better" "more hardcore" guild, so I left for <Drama Police>. I then decided after a week in DP that I hated Shand with a passion and wanted nothing to do with him, so I went back to WTF. I was asked to leave after aforementioned BH-epic-flame guild post, and I politely did.

I have no real complaints against WTF, only sometimes they'd take some real baddies to raids (in blues, ungemmed, whatever) and since the loot system was free-roll, no DKP or whatever, these bads would get like T5 or T6 right away. Then they'd show up the next night and have none of it enchanted, which would just annoy me. Some organizational issues also bothered me. Not sure what they are up to nowadays.

<Echelon> - Synths guild, home away from home. Loved it.

<HP> - Love these guys. Good players. Use DKP (which I love). And I'm also just much more sane now...because I realized that drama is pointless and loot always gets replaced. Taking anything too seriously in this game is just stupid, it's all about making friends, and having fun.

So yeah, I've never been hardcore, but I've had the chance to be and didn't really like it. I like guilds that get stuff done, don't tolerate being absolutely awful...but also aren't like OMG YOU NEED TO RAID EVERY FRIDAY FOR SERVER FIRSTS PROGRESSION!!!!!111111oneone.

The end.

Hero Squad: Have some fking amazing players. Have some fking horrible players. Mostly have lives. Unusually cool.

RM: Again, have some amazing players, have some horrible players. Have a tight-knit core, some of whom don't necessarily like each other but have been playing together forever. Have massive issues with favoritism and holding onto bad players because they kiss ass, or have been around forever, or are simply too nice to be kicked. Their core drives away whatever talented players they recruit. Excessively bureaucratic. Many of their old, highly able leaders are still in guild, but don't want to challenge the new leadership that they do not like for fear of falling out or breaking the guild. It's a testament to that leadership that they trashed two Valanyrs so one man could power trip. Contrary to what some may say, they aren't any more mature than any other guild.

DU: Have practiced churn-and-burn recruitment through several servers. Have some extremely good players, but their leadership is not particularly mature in handling responsibility or blame.

EI: Like Hubbard leaving the Church of Scientology as his gift to the world, Xeyali exits stage right and his creation keeps on going. Have some really exceptional players, but stymied by the level of maturity and ego prevalent amongst BH alliance.

About 50% of the players in the above three guilds are guilded because they don't have any better options.

TB: Most of them aren't douchebags (although a few are). They just don't need you. Most of their most asshat members (excepting their DK with the legendary) are not raiders but socials (e.g., that feral druid).

Project Zerg / Infidels: Since we no longer have "entry level" raiding guilds in WotLK, as everything is puggable, instead we have...these guys. Those who want to be in a hardcore guild and have raid gear, and raid copiously, but... Never ask their tanks to tank anything that requires more than a taunt-spamming meatshield, or bring their DPS to any encounter that requires more than stationary button-spamming. But if that's all you need they can totally do it.

Untouchable: Don't forget, the guild was formed to free BH's best players from Nfar's mismanagement. That's why they're still working on LK-25...and heroic Anub. Whatever goes wrong, or whatever idea needs to be re-examined, it's never their GM/MT/RL's fault.

Demon Within: They talk on vent at 10 WPM.

Twisted: Tits = gear. They have some quite good players but can't pull it together for reasons I don't fully understand.

ATLC: They're bad people. Very bad people. Don't let them near your children.

I say most of this in the spirit of Henq's post, to spur discussion. Don't read any kind of spite or malice into my post (well, one exception)

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

Adamant under Ferdy's rule was badass. When they went to SCD, things got too serious for me. Some time in Jan or Feb a duder named Ekou took over as raid leader and, soon after, we assimilated a lot of people from some higher end-game guild that recently broke up. The guild turned from "Hai guyz letz be frens n progrez" to, "Ok, we're going to recruit a ton of people that are better than we are so we can progress faster." I thought that was always a dick move since they didn't wanna build their core team... but I'm probably the only one who thinks that.

The two other most awesome guilds were Gankers Inc because of the members... and Commanding General... because I felt awesome nubing around the BGs with two High Warlords...

I am admittedly unfamiliar with the Alliance guilds on the server. I have had little to no contact with the guys on that side except for those of you that have/had a few horde alts. So here is my quick list with some opinions that are nothing more than surface level about the few alliance guilds I even have an opinion of:

Enrage Inc : I think that Jushiro is a good guy or seems like it. I have a friend who was in EI for a bit (muertedolor) and he confirmed that Jushi was one of the members that stood out to him. Unfortunately EI has a bad taste in my mouth from the legendary scandal with Faiye (not sure if that was his name) which in my mind, and again it is merely my opinion and not a flamewar starter, was a poor management decision. Jushiro has posted on the wow realm forums stating some reasons for the switch but from my point of view, it sort of just looks like a mistake made by the guild. Other than that , Enrage seems solid. Non arrogant, success in raiding, some very quality members...one small mistake that may overshadow guild events for the time being but nothing that won't pass

Borderline Amazing : I know little to nothing about this guild. However, the impression I Get from reading some of their members posts on the realm forum, in the progression threads and others, is a good one. The guild, or at least Roxanne, seems very polite, intelligent, humorous, wiling to help others out (also turning a profit on the selling of titles). Now again, whether these opinions are actually true or not...I dont know...but all I have to go on is my impression of the guilds from what I see. BA seems like a pretty solid group of people to me.

Tasty Beverage : I am a fan of their progression. I "assume" they are highly skilled players who are intently dedicated to their goal. I applaud that. I do think there is a level of elitism and arrogance that is going beyond the bounds of their progression and world rank. Their leader, Monique (actually not their GMI just checked armory...weird), seems reasonable. The posts on the forum made sense and were non confrontational...to a point. There was a point in one of the discussions where Monique just sort of lashed out whoever was saying "TB transferred for attempts". While I undrestand it being frustrating, I don't think that is the way to handle things as it will cast the guild into a negative light. As someone mentioned...that might be fine with them. Top 50 guild might not need to care about the server they play on...I don't agree with it, but that might be what they are thinking. There is one member of the guild that really rubs me the wrong way and I will leave that persons name out. But that member just exemplifies the image that TB has for most of the server as being arrogant, pricks who do not give a crap about anyone but themselves.

Royal Militia : I have had no real connection with them except for some postings from their members. I have heard bad things about drama and mismanagement from the server at large. I will say that Kamguh seems like a decent guy from postings around the forums so that is about all I have to go on for the guild.

Dissension : I never knew them while they were an active guild. Which may be unfortunate. All of the dealings I have had with ex disession members have been good. Aqlo, Aethera, Rosjin...all were disenssion at one point I beleive. All are currently or were in Hero Squad and are/were upstanding guys. A pleasure to play with. Boredalt is a member of the guild and he single handedly makes this guild the one I would join if I was ever alliance. The guilds progression was hot in previous times and their members seems very solid. Two thumbs up


This is only my opinion of alliance guilds through the interaction I have had with them. Nothing meant to be taken offensively, only a discussion.

I will get to the horde guilds next

I hurd EI is full of Canadians.

There is more to good than the absence of bad. That's all I'll say.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

Someone runs into the "managements" room during raids and turns off their lights and covers their face with a bag.

I think most guilds are about the same - the majority of members are quietly competent (to varying degrees), a few members are loud-mouthed pricks, and fewer still members are fun, intelligent, and vocal. Unfortunately most of the impression you get from a guild is from the last two categories and their relative abundance.

The nature of an institution is that it takes on a life apart from its member individuals.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

You should see their new guilds ranks, freaking awesome.




Pretty much my impression too, the few people I know well in EI (Purpledrink, Krunkz, Jushi) are freaking awesome and some of the nicest, most helpful players I know, but a few others (Mazeltov/Ebeewa) make me want to inflict a myriad of painful things upon myself. I can't stand the frat-boy/internet tough guy attitude they attempt to exude.

<BA> Great guild, one of the best I've been in in my nearly 10 years playing MMOs. We have a few herp-derp members, and a certain priest drives me up the wall but overall it's a great crowd. Vent is generally always active, there's normally something going on, progression is solid in both the 10 and 25 mans. Ghendo runs the DKP system well, and the officer core is solid. I know a few people complain about favoritism, but.... most guilds have a core 10 man, and in most guilds the core 25 doesn't switch it up that much.

<RM> Can't say much, I only really know Isamoo who is awesome. 'Nuff said. Kamguh seems pretty legit from the forums/occasional whisper chats we have.

<TB> I like who I know in TB (the resto druid, Myrrar). Nice guy, always willing to let me bounce strats off him or ask him how they do stuff. In return, I tank stuff for his alts

Reverence I know a lot of people will probably slap me for talking dirty about them, buuuuut. Nice people, really nice people. F*cking awful raiders. There were weeks that we couldn't clear ToC25. I left when I nearly had a fist fight with one of the other officers.

<WTF> Azelma's impression is pretty much spot on. I never raided with them, but they're an awesome bunch. Not sure how they do progression wise, but socially totally awesome.

<Project Zerg Lead by two people I despise, but by two others I <3, odd dichotomy. Member base is decent, though I think they disbanded?

<Team Degenerate> Lead by the notoriously unreliable Paymeto_____ and Westodruid, it's a decent guild, I guess. Westo always succeeds at creeping me the fuck out (which is hard to do), and Payme's actions regarding H:DFO going to Jushi over him have left a bitter taste in my mouth.

I joined them a little bit ago before I was in <HP>. They were all very nice, but yes...in terms of raiding...not very good. Couldn't down anything past the first wing in ICC 25, and constantly canceled raids due to lack of attendance/apathy. IDK what they need, but they are missing something.



Can't say that's the first time I've ever heard this charge.

i'll limit my opinion to guilds i have raided with:
<likes buttz> - likes buttz
<hero squad> - are jerks for not giving me the kingslayer title when i demanded it. although, they did handle drunkkilake well
<dibt fakk> - did not handle drunkkilake well
<tempest> - nerds
<elitist butts> - needed to not do raids sunday in the early afternoon so i could have actually gotten gear
<dissension> - nerds
<ATLC> - everyone there has a small weenor and a peenor in their mouf
<twisted> - kumi never invited me for anything at 70 and they are forever judged for it
<SDS> - angry nerds
<army of darkness> - are responsible for my first forced name change
<uc elevator victims> - racist nerds

if the guild isn't listed then they either: a) suck b) are meganerds or, c) a + b

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Zaryi: I'm going to slap you silly. Just for fun

I agree with most of the characterizations thus far.

Voodoo Asylum is my little brother's guild and is filled with lots of good people. Some of these people are alts of people in
HP which is also filled with good people.

Reverence It's my guild. I love them. We've had a few a**holes from time to time, but we usually manage to shake them along the way.

Since it has been a while since I've played, I am not sure who is in what guild anymore and can't quite remember who I didn't like :p

Callysta of Reverence

They need the leadership to toughen up a bit and slap members into shape. They only raid twice a week, and it's riddled with AFKs and bad pulls and just, bleh.



I knew I should've app'd