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 Post subject: Popular Things That Actually Suck
PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:23 am  
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Let's be honest, the average person is a mouthbreather. To this end, there are some things (tv shows, books, movies, music, etc) that are very popular for whatever reason, and they actually suck. Or...maybe they are okay, but you just can't get into them, even if you try. I'll give a few examples:

Twilight - Obviously terrible...tons of people (women) like both the books and movies...yikes.

The Jersey Shore - People actually like this trash, I don't get it.

Scrubs - Okay, now before you Scrubs fanboys bite my head off...look, I've TRIED to like Scrubs. I know all these people who are like OMG SO FUNNY EL OH EL SCRUBS!!!!!

I just don't get it...it just doesn't make me laugh. It uses the wacky cut-away scenes comedy, but it just doesn't do it for me...I don't know why. Maybe I just don't find a hospital setting to be that funny? Maybe the characters just seem boring to me. Maybe Zach Braff just seems like a tool.. (although I enjoyed Garden State).

To quote Family Guy: "It's like that TV Show scrubs....I watch it and I keep thinking....'which one's the funny guy'"


So what's popular that really does nothing for you?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:34 am  
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You've been hatin' a lot lately Azmeemela.


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I agree with those three, though I can occasionally enjoy scrubs more often than not I find it boring and change the channel.

I'd also like to throw in Family Guy, stopped being funny in season 4.
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Family guy only made me laugh when i was 12 and it was a crude sex joke. Thats when i thought farts where funny too.

Starcraft and other RTS like it. I just dont enjoy them to the same amount as others do. I can play maybe 2 or 3 games a day and then want to do something else. The whole RTS just seems to me to be waaay too chaotic, it could also be that i suck at it. If anyone played civilization/total war i enjoy those a hell of alot more.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:12 am  
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MSN
Fox News and CNN
Contemporary media in general, including but not limited to well over 95% of books, movies, music, television and video games
American cars
McDonalds
Those stupid shoes women wear
Apple computers
Business, marketing and finance majors
MBAs
Dating
Hair gel
Tattoos and piercings
Potato chips
Twinkies
Leetspeak and ghettospeak
Having large numbers of friends
Marrying for love
MySpace
Incense, marijuana, alcohol, smoking and drugs
Group projects
Over-colloquialized translations of old works
Winston Churchill, Ronald Reagan, and Nancy Pelosi
Christianity and Conservative Judaism
The CIA, FBI and NSA
Bottled water and flavored non-soda beverages
Cruise liners and airplanes
Automobiles
Spandex, tank tops and jeans
Mindless Internet memes such as "that word does not mean what you think it means"
Deregulation and reform


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Why am i not surprised aestu's response was so long?


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Aestu wrote:
Business, marketing and finance majors


Hey, I was a business major! :( I'll agree though, there's a higher % of douche-business majors than many other colleges.

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Group Projects
Dating
Having large numbers of friends
Marrying for love


I think this could be covered with a blanket "social interaction." Although Group Projects are quite painful if you have a bunch of morons with you.

Question, if you don't like the idea of marrying for love....what would you rather marry for? Money? Fame? Power? Seems like a shaky foundation.

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Christianity and Conservative Judaism


Is Islam okay? Also...why all Christianity, but some Judaism is okay? Not all Christianity is conservative/ridiculous.


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Azelma wrote:
Aestu wrote:
Business, marketing and finance majors


Hey, I was a business major! :( I'll agree though, there's a higher % of douche-business majors than many other colleges.


No, it's that those majors are a waste of time because those with the skill don't need most of the material, and people who go into those majors just want money without effort but bring nothing to the table in terms of skill. The world doesn't need more business and marketing people, the pool is glutted precisely because it's not a substantial field.

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Group Projects
Dating
Having large numbers of friends
Marrying for love


I think this could be covered with a blanket "social interaction." Although Group Projects are quite painful if you have a bunch of morons with you.


Group projects are bad because it's basically an application of "I inconvenience, therefore I educate". Sitting in a circle with a bunch of people fiddling with some juvenile project is nothing but pure annoyance with no educational value, and it's something professors stick in there to take up course time. It's filler content, it's a token bit of PC that people do because everyone else does it, it has no value and it's just a way of, to quote Scott Adams, of getting the cow to milk itself.

I resent being graded on anything other than what I know. If I wanted to be graded on my ability to follow orders or work with others, I'd join the army.

I don't oppose socialization at all, but I think that those who seek to have large numbers of friends are morally incorrect people. People who are morally correct do what they believe to be right and don't care whether others like or approve of them or not. They maintain friendships privately and impartially, based on mutual identity. People who make friends with whomever they can have no identity at all and thus are unworthy of respect.

Dating is retarded because it's insincere and contrived. If you want sex, go get that. If you want romance, go do things and meet people until you find the right one, don't bother dating this or that person thinking you're going to bag one by shooting wildly into a crowd. Doing a bunch of stereotyped, annoying and expensive things to win the favor of some random member of the opposite gender is beneath the dignity of any self-respecting individual.

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Question, if you don't like the idea of marrying for love....what would you rather marry for? Money? Fame? Power? Seems like a shaky foundation.

Compatibility.

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Christianity and Conservative Judaism


Is Islam okay? Also...why all Christianity, but some Judaism is okay? Not all Christianity is conservative/ridiculous.


I hate Christianity because I think the doctrine of salvation is despicable. It is morally repugnant to me that faith should be relevant to moral worth. People should be judged according to their works.

I hate Conservative Judaism because I think it's a religion for self-righteous bigots and pussies. It's for people who want to be worldly like Reform Jews but don't have the moral fiber to be observant like Orthodox Jews but want to think of themselves as religious all the same, so they observe a few specious regulations such as an obtuse interpretation of kosher laws while not observing legitimate and inconvenient laws such as the Sabbath. It's for Zionists who have no connection to what happens in Israel and no real understanding or connection with Jewish heritage. It's popular for the same reason Gearscore is popular, which is that it's a populist pseudo-elitism that anyone can buy into because it's not substantial.


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Aestu wrote:
Azelma wrote:
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People should be judged according to their works.



So you're a protestant

Edit: Just searched around and i couldnt find the correct group, gave up, if anyone knows i will award you an internet.


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there is no accounting for taste.

this thread makes its own list.


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I am aware that was the doctrinal cause of the breach between Catholics and Protestants, but in practice, the real differences are purely theological and the Protestant disdain for institutionalized authority. American Protestants today, in practical terms, believe in the doctrine of salvation even if they claim not to. Through word and deed they show they believe that faith and observance is more important than good thoughts and good deeds towards all men.


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dek wrote:
there is no accounting for taste.


Nihilism is ultimately a copout for those who do not wish to challenge their assumptions.


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Just going back to azelma and islam, illt hrow in my 2c.

I would ultimately prefer christianity to islam, because i find the central idea of islam (submittance) is awful, and can probably be partially blamed for the situation of the arab world.

Throught the middle ages and afterwards, the arab world was in decline, and still in some ways are a backwards (from our perspective) group of people. They lagged (and still do) behind western powers in civil liberties and the like, because theyre religion, the central driving force in many of their lives, told them to be passive and accept authority. Such beleifs alowed leaders to take advantage of them, rule their lives with little fear of opposition.

I know its not as true today, but the idea remains. Submitting yourself to something else, puts in your mind that there is nothing you can do. You do nothing to change your situation, to make your life better. That is a dangerous thing for all of humanity, there needs to be motivation, and a belief that you can make a difference in order to fuel progress.


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Hopefully you'll actually get a response from Aestu on how he can have such disdain for Christianity but not Islam for the reasons he stated. I'd be curious to see angle...

Oh, and Aestu left BBC off his list. Jes' sayin...
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Aestu wrote:
No, it's that those majors are a waste of time because those with the skill don't need most of the material, and people who go into those majors just want money without effort but bring nothing to the table in terms of skill. The world doesn't need more business and marketing people, the pool is glutted precisely because it's not a substantial field.


Hmm, I suppose this makes sense. I only got a business degree because my parents pretty much told me I had to. Thinking back on my business classes, I didn't really learn much that I couldn't have figured out on my own. I learned significantly more about business doing an internship and working than I ever did in the classroom.

This might just be an indictment of higher education itself.

That being said, I had multiple job offers when I graduated. The degree certainly got my foot in the door, but I assume I interviewed well enough and was able to demonstrate enough skill to warrant aforementioned job offers.

Also, from a practical standpoint, getting a music, theatre, history, english, art, etc degree doesn't exactly lend itself to getting hired out of college. I know many of my high school friends who are now working at Applebee's with their amazing Philosophy degrees. I know even more who are simply unemployed with loads of student debt. By contrast, every business major I know has a decent job that isn't some minimum wage hellhole.

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I don't oppose socialization at all, but I think that those who seek to have large numbers of friends are morally incorrect people. People who are morally correct do what they believe to be right and don't care whether others like or approve of them or not. They maintain friendships privately and impartially, based on mutual identity. People who make friends with whomever they can have no identity at all and thus are unworthy of respect.


I don't specifically aim to have a certain number of friends...it's no quota. I have many friends, however. It's not because I feel I need approval, or that I can't speak up if I don't like something about someone. Quite the contrary, if i don't like someone, I simply won't be their friend. However, I think I have a large capacity for empathy. I enjoy the company of others and can relate to a wide variety of people. I'm also not a mean person, so I find that people find me to be quite amiable. Therefore, I am able to form many relationships in my life and have great friendships with great people. I fail to see how this makes me morally incorrect.


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Dating is retarded because it's insincere and contrived. If you want sex, go get that. If you want romance, go do things and meet people until you find the right one, don't bother dating this or that person thinking you're going to bag one by shooting wildly into a crowd. Doing a bunch of stereotyped, annoying and expensive things to win the favor of some random member of the opposite gender is beneath the dignity of any self-respecting individual.


I think we have different definitions of dating. I am currently dating people because I am trying to find romance. Sex has entered the equation, but I am not going out with girls just to get into their pants. I am genuinely interested in meeting a nice girl, and getting to know her. Dating is the forum with which you can get to know a girl who you don't interact with on a daily basis (at work or whatever). I meet people through normal social events (out at a bar, party, whatever) and I have gotten a few numbers from girls...I then call that girl...and take her out in an effort to get to know her better. To me, that's the function of dating. Some people do date simply to get laid, not all do.

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Question, if you don't like the idea of marrying for love....what would you rather marry for? Money? Fame? Power? Seems like a shaky foundation.

Compatibility.


The trick is finding compatibility and love...which is quite possible.


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