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I know I posted this before Cata dropped.
I wanted to check back in to see how things are going and if plans have changed.

Did many guilds switch back to 10 man?
I saw that borderline went to 10 man (werent they 25?) and it made me sad.

Whats hillarious is that Circle of the Tyrants (formerly Demon Within) decided to go 10 man when we only had a few people showing for raids and now we possibly have 4 ten man groups going. There are three confirmed raids with fourth TBD. I have a feeling once people get used to the new raids they will want to go back to 25s because there will be ten mans fighting over healers and tanks.

9 level 90s and 10 85s, Damn I need another hobby.

RM is a handful of 10 man groups.

Funny thing is a while ago I predicted they would try for 25 then it would fall apart and break out into 10s. It happened almost exactly how I predicted.

Akina: bitch I will stab you in the face

Long live 25 man!
Sounds like you guys will have your pick of 25man raid squad. Very nice and congrats.

I was just having this debate with Muerte and Shavyah via gchat.
Even though 10 man and 25 man drop the same loot and are linked raid lockouts, I am still of the belief that 25 man is the more prestigious raid environment.

This is not meant as an insult to 10 man guilds of the world. To each his own. I was merely debating with them on the side that 25 man raids will be the highest echelon of raiding achievable.

And that lead to my statement that if I completed everything on 10 man...after that I would say "Well shit what now....let's try to get a 25 together". 25man heroic is the final stopping point.

From my experiences in both, 25 man is still more difficult than 10 man in many instances. There are a few select fights where 10 man is a little easier, but by and large 25 feels a little harder, regardless of what blizzard claims.

Some fights balance out, like nef, where phase 1 and 3 seem to flip flop in difficulty between 10 and 25. That is kind of nice.

25 mans = more room for error as far as rotations and spec but no room for error on positioning because the environment is the same size as it is in tens.

10 mans are the exact opposite. Less forgiving if you are slightly undergeared or in a farming spec but there are alot more room for error on positioning. The huge problem with ten mans is if one person dies that is not a healer, tank, or extremely important interupt/cc it is not worth a battle rez so you should basically just wipe it. Also alot more problems if someone disconnects mid fight. Dont get me wrong, if a few people lag out in a 25 man it can still cause major problems, but not as much as in a ten.

CotT will probably end up staying 10 man groups but the grumblings of people that wanted to say 25s are starting to surface. I would probably predict running 25 mans when people outgear content or it is not progression. A perfect world would be Hero Squads policy of raid subs in a ten man. Get the best group in for the fight but have people on standby when needed.

9 level 90s and 10 85s, Damn I need another hobby.

BA went to 10-man as the result of a schism that left their numbers greatly reduced.

Zaryi and I are going to be starting initial/general recruitment for a 25 man guild very soon for the reasons you describe - the fundamental instability and inflexibility of 10-man guilds.


This is also an excellent occasion to express interest in this opportunity.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

You're going to join GLP and run a PvE bracket within it?

AWESOME!

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

I actually might be interested in this. Question though, assuming I'm not completely terrible and do solid DPS -> could I be shadow?

Coming Soon™

I'm mildly upset I wasn't mentioned, though I'm not really a part of starting the guild up per se - you will get to raid with Jushiro if you join ; )

inv for raiding with jushypoo

inv

Icing on the cake
Probably the only reason I would ever consider a faction change