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Paranoia just told me this one's not an accident.

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Jubber

AKA "The Gun"
AKA "ROFeraL"

World Renowned Mexican Forklift Artiste

Obama did it. He want's to destroy our off-shore efforts and our economy.

ITT: We enjoy the full effects of deregulation.

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I thought it seemed too coincidental as well.

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It's stupid to think a lack of regulation caused either oil rig to explode... as if more regulation can somehow stop mechanical and electrical failures.

Yeah, its called properly maintained and updated equipment as per government guidelines. BP's oil disaster plan was laughable and all of the other major oil corporations had pretty much the exact same plan. Why? Because they didn't have to have strict protocols, only some half-assed "plan" because that's what the government required them to have.

This is what self-regulation gets you, enjoy your inevitable disasters (which will be fixed by your tax dollar, talk about fiscally conservative!).

EDIT: Cave-ins are bound to happen in mines. Why bother reinforcing tunnels if they could just as well cave in due to Jesus anyways?

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You're assuming there was something that could've been done to make either rig safer, Mayo. The BP disaster is under investigation but they suspect the disaster is due to a giant pocket of methane gas rising rapidly through the shaft, breaching onto the platform and subsequently exploding. Also, the BP oil rig had precautions in place that failed when the Rig started sinking.

This latest rig could've been the safest, most state-of-the-art rig to float in the gulf yet something other than aging equipment could've cause the blast; more methane gasses, a guy smoking a cigarette, a meteorite crashing through a containment tank, a Russian submarine, an electrical fire - Anything. It's too soon to start blaming one reason or the other so you shouldn't run your mouth about self-regulation when that might not be the cause.

My point is this - regardless of how much regulation you have in place, a mechanical or electrical failure, or some other natural or unnatural event, is going to happen. Do you suggest we have one government official checking the safety measures on platforms several times a day? Would that make you feel better? Ya know, there are thousands of platforms that existed for decades without any problems. Sure, you get the occasional rig fires. Big deal? Gas stations get fires, too, and they're heavily regulated. What about American-made cars? They're the product of one of the most heavily regulated markets yet they'll still fail from time to time; sometimes of no fault to the owner.

PS: Do you want every company and person to prepare a disaster plan, or have fail-safes for fail-safes for fail-safes, for events that have never happened before?

People not having failsafes for failsafes are the reason lawyers exist.

If destruction exists, we must destroy everything.
Shuruppak Yuratuhl
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That is why no one can sue Batman, because only he has failsafes & backups for all his failsafes & backups.

Also, there is naturally a limit how regulated any activity can be, because you'd eventually reach a point at which the cost of regulation would make the activity economically unsustainable. This is aside from the fact the party that benefits most from proper equipment upkeep is its owner(s), especially when they are subject to paying damages...or being coerced into dropping 20 billion into a slush fund for politicians.

Your Pal,
Jubber

AKA "The Gun"
AKA "ROFeraL"

World Renowned Mexican Forklift Artiste

Sorry, the legal formula for damages generally means that a company making that kind of money will rather run the risk of stuff blowing up and settling (if they even have to, since civil suits are expensive as balls and any individual better have the means to bring it vs an army of corporate lawyers. Hint: if you work on a rig, you don't have those means) than making sure their shit is in working order.

If destruction exists, we must destroy everything.
Shuruppak Yuratuhl
Slaad Shrpk Breizh

Deja voodoo.

Get used to it

The same logic applies in my company's IT department. Rather than do proper maintenance of computers, they just wait for them to blow up then replace them since its a more cost effective way, in their eyes, than preventing problems before they occur.