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Necrachilles
 Post subject: @Perception
PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:20 am  
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•Perception is gone.
Take that, punks. Also, here's some more racials!

•Cannibalize now also regenerates mana. (7% of total health and mana every 2 sec for 10 sec)

•Cultivation still increases your Herbalism skill by 15, but also lets you gather herbs faster than normal herbalists.


Also, Meowth if you read this, go look at the changes to balance druids on MMO Champ, grats on AoE roots.lolol

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Weena
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I'm starting to think they're going overboard with the AoE shit.

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dek
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Gnomes
Shortblade Specialization - Expertise with Daggers and One-Handed Swords increased by 3.


hooray gnome rogues

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Usdk
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perception sucks anyway.

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Necrachilles
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Usdk wrote:
perception sucks anyway.

Roll a rogue and then say that after you lose matches because you're not a human so you didn't get jump.

Also, in BC it was a huge crutch. Literally 90% of matches had a human in them and you were just boned. A human warlock with paronoia was just game over, he could see you across the board.

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Jushiro
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Necrachilles wrote:
Usdk wrote:
perception sucks anyway.

Roll a rogue and then say that after you lose matches because you're not a human so you didn't get jump.



Doesn't that make night elf rogues OP too?

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Necrachilles
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Jushiro wrote:
Necrachilles wrote:
Usdk wrote:
perception sucks anyway.

Roll a rogue and then say that after you lose matches because you're not a human so you didn't get jump.



Doesn't that make night elf rogues OP too?

Nelf rogues always had the best baseline stats for a rogue and are in line with humans, humans are just way more OP and were even more so before they nerfed Perception.

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Usdk
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I did not notice a difference in my effectiveness vs rogues when i went horde.

I understand rogue v rogue and how important it is, but maxed MoD and stealth enchants almost cancels out perception anyway. remember it got nerfed when they made it passive.

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Meowth
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ITT: Nerf Rogue stealth detection

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Jushiro
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Meowth wrote:
ITT: Nerf Rogue stealth detection


If you represent stealth detection as being a numberline

Humans +1 self detection
Nelf -1 enemy detection

The nelf one is more op no?

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Meowth
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Jushiro wrote:
Meowth wrote:
ITT: Nerf Rogue stealth detection


If you represent stealth detection as being a numberline

Humans +1 self detection
Nelf -1 enemy detection

The nelf one is more op no?


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Laelia
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Jushiro wrote:
Meowth wrote:
ITT: Nerf Rogue stealth detection


If you represent stealth detection as being a numberline

Humans +1 self detection
Nelf -1 enemy detection

The nelf one is more op no?


IIRC, Perception used to be +3 levels of stealth detection (when it was an active ability) and the NE racial was +1 level of stealth. They're equal now, but perception used to be a lot stronger.
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Perception is the reason i got duelist one time.

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It had to go away because of adding huntards to the human collective. Imagine: track hidden+engineering head gear detection buffs+catseye elixir+perception.

There wouldn't be any more stealth.

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