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I actually did a heroic with this guy. He was booted after pulling the trash on the far side of Moorabi's room and dragging it away from me.

I just wonder, who are these people, irl?

He looks like someone who doesn't know the game and is just doing what he thinks is right. The gemming isn't optimal, but he was looking to fill out the socket bonuses, so I see where that mistake comes from.

There are a lot of people for whom wow is the first mmo or even rpg they've ever played. There is a lot of information that is taken for granted by those of us who have done this before. WoW has been made easier, but there are still things that aren't explained quite as well, or aren't as intuitive/straight-forward for new players.

It's also quite possible that this player is just an "experience content"' kinda player, not a "do what I can to do my best" player. It's also quite possible that he knows this is just a game, and being bad at a game isn't the end of the world.

Dvergar /
Quisling

I was talking to a rogue on a different server. He would go from mutilate to sub. Mut daggers were both fast (1.4) and when he'd go sub, he'd equip a 2.6 axe in his OH and keep the fast Dagger in his MH. I tried explaining it to him like 7 times but he just didn't understand it. So frustrating.

WoW is the first MMO I ever played. It's completely self-evident that a player should socket the stats that makes his character better. A player can see exactly what spirit does by mousing over the stats page in the character window.

I don't buy the "experience content" crock either since this player has no interest in doing anything but running around doing whatever gives him welfare epics. If he could get full T10 from whacking kobolds for hours, he'd do it, just as surely as he gets carried through heroics in silence for hours in what any normal person would find unbearable tedium. If it didn't award welfare epics, he wouldn't do it.

Someone who cannot read the tooltip on their stats page - or doesn't take occasion to in the course of levelling at least two characters to 80 - has more fundamental problems than being "bad at a game". This person is very obviously stupid in real life.

his name is Lichpower.

his guild name is Frostmourne.

he's trying to be serious about this game.

he's 12 years old.

it's his first and only 80.

That's a lof of assumptions based on a few wrong choices. This guy isn't even "of the owl"-2hander-bad. And that was probably what he was doing. Aside from the loading screen tips I don't see anywhere in-game that says you can put any gem in any socket. If someone was new to the game and saw a red socket the natural assumption would be that red gems go there. If they had a blue socket and looked up blue gems they wouldn't find any good gems. Looking at the spirit stat they would see health regen (and only health regen) and could conceivably think that was a worthwhile stat. It doesn't make him retarded, it just makes him wrong.


Wow, you've got some real issues. So you know what interests he has? You know what he would do for his rewards? You do know some people play the game to relax and have fun right? That not everyone wants to raid or is interested in the top level gear. Some people actually like 5 mans. And why are you putting up with such painful tedium if it's just for welfare gear? You could probably solo the 5 mans, what does it matter if he's doing his own thing, the only real problem you complained about was aggroing and running away from you. You couldn't just tell him not to run when he has aggro?



Only need a 55 for a DK, someone could have leveled to 60 in the first few months of the game then come back a month ago and gotten a dk to 80. Just playing the game without worrying about power-gaming their character to be the best they possible can be doesn't mean someone has "fundamental problems", but someone with such vehement and vitriolic opinions about someone they spent 20 minutes with in silence in a game, I'd say they have some pretty fundamental problems.

Edit: He probably is a moron, I really don't care I'm just killing time until I need to go to bed.

Dvergar /
Quisling

It's players like that that I just want to hug :3 He really clearly has no idea what he's doing.

It's the people that talk shit about everyone else and gear/gem like that that I want to throw off a bridge.

s^ | Kay

has anyone looked at his spec?

Ok, you're wrong here. Gems say, MATCHES a socket of X color because that's exactly what it means. You don't need to read an instruction manual or EJ to be able to interpret that in a less-than-completely dense way. Hell, you could determine it's not necessary to match sockets just by happening to inspect a player who DOESN'T match socket bonuses. Obviously if sockets could not be filled except with matching gems, socket bonuses would be redundant.

You don't need to be a math wizard to understand that a few HP when your health pool is in the tens of thousands isn't useful. You don't have to be a brainiac or super nerd to understand that spirit isn't useful - again, reading the tooltips, watching what other players do, common sense, is sufficient.



I know him the same way I know anyone else which is by watching what he does. If the instance didn't give him epics, he wouldn't do it, just like he doesn't do ANYTHING that doesn't give him epics. If he legitimately enjoyed the content, he'd DO the content, not indifferently autoattack random mobs in silence, totally non-engaged.

No mentally correct person could possibly find that fun. That's not a value judgement, it's reality. If you found someone who found rolling a ball of lint between their fingers so entrancing they were willing to spend hours doing it to the exclusion of anything else, you'd conclude they are mentally sub-normal, and that wouldn't be a value judgement either.

I play this game for fun, to play with other people who like having fun. I don't demand they excel at the game or be on what I see as my level, simply that they try, that they be engaged. It's damaging to the community, to my enjoyment, to have someone there just to leech and go on to leech and non-contribute in other settings. If he wasn't there, I might get a an engaging player who would help me kill the mobs and might be fun to talk to. Even if he wasn't an amazing player, it'd be enough that he would make an effort and be an active participant. It's easy enough to pick up the basics of this game well enough to contribute adequately to a fiveman.



You're a moron and full of shit. Look at his activity feed.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-feed ... =Lichpower

This guy plays a solid 9 hours a day.



mmk

Who are you, anyway?

THIS JUST IN:

It's a fucking game, a lot of people suck at it, and whenever we go all nerd-rage crazy over half-wittery from DPS or horrible, terrible, no-good, very bad DK tanks (of which there are too many), we're making a jackass out of ourselves.

That said, a lot of us are jackasses, so please ignore everything I just said and continue, this thread is most entertaining.

Your Pal,
Jubber

AKA "The Gun"
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speaking of bad,

i was just in a heroic with a ret paladin using seal of light, not judging and who had 66 points in ret.

When I started playing WoW (release) I played with a lot of my irl friends. We leveled up to about 40 before some of them started falling out of the game. Some still play.

One was a hunter who stacked spirit gear because he figured it was less downtime between pulls. It didn't occur to him to use stats to increase his damage.

One was a rogue that was Seal Fate / Prep spec sinister strike swords. It's like he was going out of his way to take talents that would actually help his playstyle... he didn't even spend any point on imp sinister strike which is tier 1 combat.

One was just a hacker that teleported all over the place and had basically infinite gold. When he left the game he sent Blizzard a copy of all his exploit code and told them to fix their game.

Akina: bitch I will stab you in the face

I'm not referring to this guy specifically, but some people don't engage in the game as deeply as those of us who post on forums dedicated to it might. One of my irl friends plays WoW, and is kind of bad at it. He often doesn't enchant his gear, his specs are odd, and his gems are usually green and match the socket colour. His 10-man guild was struggling in Ulduar when ICC was released (they only raid a couple hours one night a week). He's a intelligent guy irl, but he just doesn't look for outside information on the game and muddles along based on what little amount of information is available in game. He has fun playing though, and that's all that matters to him.

More important question: Why do you care who these people are?

How about instead of writing 1500 word posts attempting to psychoanalyze every action the guy takes in a condescending holier-than-thou dick way, go and have a couple minute in-game conversation with the guy. Maybe you will learn a thing or two about your assumptions, he might learn something about the game. It can be your first step to not being such an ignorant fuck.

and there's the post i was going to make 4 hours ago.

ty mikebro.