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 Post subject: The "WTF?!?!" Report
PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 6:22 pm  
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Discuss.


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we're all insane, and people in power even more so


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a lot of people are going to end up dead over this stuff.


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Usdk wrote:
a lot of people are going to end up dead over this stuff.


Who and how?


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Usdk wrote:
a lot of people are going to end up dead over this stuff.


Governments don't deserve opacity.


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If the information is classified then it should remain classified. No one is saying the government should have total opacity... but when it's about matters of national security or intel, especially in a time of war, then that shit should be kept under wraps.

The people who leak the information should be charged with treason and killed.
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Eturnalshift wrote:
If the information is classified then it should remain classified. No one is saying the government should have total opacity... but when it's about matters of national security or intel, especially in a time of war, then that shit should be kept under wraps.

The people who leak the information should be charged with treason and killed.


diripio notitia, exoptare veritas. Charge with treason if you wish, but killing would be a wasted effort.

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Hi. I took a foreign language worth learning in school. Care to translate?
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Eturnalshift wrote:
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Hi. I took a foreign language worth learning in school. Care to translate?


Hi, I took italian, and that didn't stop me from looking into others.

"plunder information to search for truth"


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Eturnalshift wrote:
The people who leak the information should be charged with treason and killed.


Considering that risk already exists, I don't think the supposed deterrent of punishment will make the leaks stop.

It's too easy to classify everything and use the excuse that we're at war. Carte blanche in the name of security has never been a good idea.


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Eturnalshift wrote:
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hur dur


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Considering that risk already exists, I don't think the supposed deterrent of punishment will make the leaks stop.

It's too easy to classify everything and use the excuse that we're at war. Carte blanche in the name of security has never been a good idea.

It'll stop that individual from doing it again, mirite?

And do you really think everything is classified because we're in a time of war? Of course not. No one is saying we should do that, either. Information should be classified if it can be used against the country in any harmful way and that information should be protected as such. Those who violate their non disclosure agreement should be punished... severely.
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Eturnalshift wrote:
It'll stop that individual from doing it again, mirite?


One way or another, they'll never be in a position to leak again.

Eturnalshift wrote:
And do you really think everything is classified because we're in a time of war? Of course not. No one is saying we should do that, either. Information should be classified if it can be used against the country in any harmful way and that information should be protected as such. Those who violate their non disclosure agreement should be punished... severely.


I don't think everything is classified for that reason, but I don't appreciate that classification is done by those who potentially have everything to hide. I don't like wikileaks for putting people in danger (supposedly, and I could buy that it's a real danger) by exposing everything, I like them for exposing what should never have been hidden.


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Eturnalshift wrote:
If the information is classified then it should remain classified. No one is saying the government should have total opacity... but when it's about matters of national security or intel, especially in a time of war, then that shit should be kept under wraps.

The people who leak the information should be charged with treason and killed.

i don't see how obama being a dick about meeting with people has anything to do with this being a "time of war"


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Rikki - It probably has something more to do with the location of the detainees. I'm sure some people would like to know where those guys are being transfered.

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