From: phd duder [mailto:
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Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 4:04 PM
To: Aestu
Subject: RE: Capstone/Livy
Hi Ethan,
I've just been looking again at Livy Book 5 and the interactions among the senate, the consular tribunes and the plebian tribunes. All of your quotes come from this section of Livy. That's both good and bad; bad because it is a rather discrete and odd period of Roman history, and we don't other accounts to corroborate any conclusions we might make; but good because the interaction among the three groups is given in great detail (of course then there is the question of where Livy finds the story - sigh). Regardless, what is plain in Livy's account is that the plebian tribunes are far from united in their behavior; the senate is already able to coopt some of them; there aren't even enough plebian candidates for the office. If the plebian tribunes are blocking the election of consuls, in this case the consular tribunes they get are hardly a benefit to the plebs. All of this is the kind of context you need to provide in the section on this issue. The events of this time illustrate well, I think, that the plebian tribunate is already becoming a creature of the Roman elite, an instrument that does nothing substantial to change the social strata in Rome and much to keep power in the hands of the few, albeit of both patrician and plebian descent. It is in this context that your inclusion of consular/military tribunes is most powerful.
PS I haven't thought this much about a paper in a long time - which is a testament to your insight.